Would The Real Paul Ryan Please Stand Up . . .

What do Paul Ryan and Todd Akin (GOP rape guy) have in common? - A lot more than you'd hope for . . .

When Representative Todd Akin (MO) was asked during a televised interview what his view was on allowing abortion in the case of rape or incest he stated, "It seems to me first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," Akin said. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

Akin is a six term Republican currently running for the Senate against Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill. Paul Ryan and most of the GOP were quick to denounce what Akin said . . . but does Ryan privately agree with akin despite publicly backing away from him? YES - We know this to be true because of the history that Ryan and Akin share and from what Ryan has stated in the past about his own views on abortion and womens' rights:

1) Last year, Akin joined with GOP vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as two of the original co-sponsors of the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” a bill which, among other things, introduced the country to the bizarre term “forcible rape.” Under the Ryan/Akin Bill, only victims of “forcible rape” would qualify for federally funded abortions. Victims of statutory rape—say, a 13-year-old girl impregnated by a 30-year-old man—would be on their own. So would victims of incest if they’re over 18. - See story here

2) In 2009 Ryan and Akin also cosponsored a federal personhood bill, the Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009, a movement that supporters say will outlaw abortions in all cases, and declares that a fertilized egg is entitled to the exact same legal rights as a human being. This Bill would have made using most forms of contraception, including many birth control pills the equivalent of committing a homicide. - The Bill of course, did not pass the Senate. Story Here

 3) From day one of his public sector life Paul Ryan has been consistent (until now) on his view towards banning all abortions:

"Ryan, a 28-year-old first-time candidate, said he has consistently opposed legal abortion and makes only one exception -- cases in which a doctor deems an abortion necessary to save the mother's life. He favors overturning the Supreme Court's landmark Roe vs. Wade decision that made most abortions legal, Ryan said." ~

September 26, 1998
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Beware women of America - Paul Ryan is dangerously close to becoming second in charge of the nation and first in charge of your uterus.

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oak creek resident August 22, 2012 at 07:13 PM
MS by all means please do take a break from the comments, thanks!
Lee August 22, 2012 at 08:05 PM
The operative word here is "choice". It should be a woman's choice. Prostitutes let men dictate what they should do with their bodies too. That is why I feel no man should dictate what a woman should do with her own body. And there is no hatred towards life. Take your Saint Hood elsewhere.
mau August 22, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Notice how all the libs on here came out blindly attacking and labeling Joana Briggs, when they "thought" she was their enemy on this issue.
mau August 22, 2012 at 08:33 PM
I'm hoping your ex-husband was there to support you and take care of the children while you faced this crisis.
mau August 22, 2012 at 08:34 PM
And now they're groveling for her forgiveness and support.
David Tatarowicz August 22, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Stata Baba not Stara
mau August 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM
@David, growing up my parents/grandparents said stada or stata (sound) baba (though they weren't Polish). Probably picked up from their ethnic surroundings. Stara baba is from their mother tongue which is not Polish.
Joana Briggs August 22, 2012 at 10:49 PM
mau, my ex-husband used this rape as another reason he an alcoholic should have custody of the kids. The court did not agree thank God. I am missing the groveling. An apology acknowledging he wrongly called my motives is not a grovel. My forgiveness was given freely. If some one has asked for my support I missed that too. mau I did not share my personal experiences at first because these blogs are often judgemental and people want to get their view across so badly they miss the truth of others. So now my story without all the gory details is out and I am thankful it was responded to with compassion.
mau August 22, 2012 at 11:01 PM
My point was you were labeled TEA Party and accused of not knowing how it felt to be in that situation. I am glad you have told your story.
Joana Briggs August 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Thank you mau. I do not mind that label even if it was meant as a hit.
Lee August 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Do you write fiction for a living?
Joana Briggs August 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM
No! Fact is always stranger than fiction. Do you read fiction?
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Jason, what is your point with this Rant? That Paul Ryan agrees with Todd Akin concerning the sanctity of life? You will need to throw myself and several million other people in that group as well. Many of us don't believe that abortion should be used to correct a lapse in judgement made a few days or weeks earlier. You (Liberals) have tried to make a case for incense or rape, but statistically, how often is that the case? Places like Planned Parenthood exist to offer abortions. Many years ago a friend's girlfriend went there for a pregnancy test and when the results came back positive they offered no other information but abortion related ones. If they really were concerned with offering a "choice" they would have provided ALL the alternatives. Abortion is dead issue for this election. It is the least of our concerns when we are almost 16 TRILLION in debt. Barack Hussein Obama shows no indication of changing his spending. THAT is the real issue in this election!
Nancy K August 23, 2012 at 01:33 AM
Trying to make a connection other than working on a bill together, the attempt by the left to tie Paul Ryan to Rep. Akin is nothing more than the demonization of the Republican candidates. What one believes is not necessarily what is going to come about...one man/person does not make a law. Takes a whole lot of people. It's all a huge deflection from the main issue of this presidential campaign...the economic health of this country and if we can continue on the path we are now on.
Nancy K August 23, 2012 at 01:34 AM
Well said, Anti-Alinksy...well except for using "incense" in place of "incest" ;-)
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 04:04 AM
Good catch. I was relying on the spell checker too much.
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 04:10 AM
This is just their current attempt to divert attention away from the real issues that will drive this election, jobs and the economy. To date I have yet to hear anything from Barack Hussein Obama's liberal swarm about ANY positive accomplishment's he has achieved in the last four years. This is just another attempt at wagging the dog.
Jason Patzfahl August 23, 2012 at 05:21 AM
At the end of Bush's term we were losing 200,00+ jobs per month, but with Obama private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President his term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase. During Bush's best times the economy added just 1.5 million private sector jobs, an increase of only 1.4 percent. Oh, and GM is still alive and Bin Laden is dead. Ask yourself, "Are you doing better today than you were four years ago?" I am, GM is, America is, Bin Laden - not so much!
Jason Patzfahl August 23, 2012 at 05:29 AM
Oh, and back to abortion, Paul Ryan, anti-baby secretion juice and whatever the hell "Forcible Rape" is - The CDC reports that there were over 1.2 MILLION rapes reported last year in the US (and they estimate less than half of all rapes are reported). They also report that about 5% result in pregnancy, which is ironically the same percent of brainpower that Paul Ryan actually uses when he co-signs legislation that makes rape victims who want to take the morning after pill murderers, which is exactly what is the Akin/Ryan "Personhood" Bill did.
Randy1949 August 23, 2012 at 02:53 PM
@Anti-Alinsky -- At least we didn't end up with 25% unemployment, which is what happened when Herbert Hoover just kept steaming ahead in the same direction after the '29 crash. That's what McCain planned to do -- just 'more of same'. Not enough federal revenue? Borrowing too much money? Cut taxes again. It's never worked before, but we're certain it will this time. Yeah, right.
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Randy, be careful, you are opening a huge can of worms. First, you are going back over 80 years, it's whole different economy now. Second, by March 1930 the stock market had bounced back to March 1929 levels. No, not the peak it hit just before the big crash, but a respectable level. What pushed the depression on was consumer confidence, or lack of it. We still had functional production facilities, we still had consumers to buy products. What we didn't have was the jobs for people to make products and then buy them. Your comment about "Borrowing too much money? Cut taxes again" is ridiculous. The Republican's aren't just about cutting taxes, it's cutting the outlandish spending we are doing. The private sector is better at creating self-sustaining jobs than government. Government has to rely on taxes, which just sucks money out of the private sector. And finally, cutting taxes HAS been proven to generate tax revenues. Don't believe me? Look at tax revenues, particularly during the 1980's and the Regan tax cuts. Tax revenue continued to climb! This recession has only gotten worse under Barack Hussein Obama, and if he manages to get reelected, I know it will get even worse!
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Yes Jason, and thanks to Barack Hussein Obama's ARRA funds, those 4.3 million jobs only cost us 109,777.78 per job. (wasn't it 4.5 million a few days ago? how did we lose 200,000 jobs?) In actuality Jason, you are ignoring the TRUE unemployment estimates of around 15%. Once a person reaches they limit for unemployment benefits, they are dropped from the unemployment rolls and no longer counted. Our unemployment rate is still too high, and when Barack Hussein Obama starts taking more from the job creators, it is just going to get worse!
meg August 23, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Was your buddy Bill Clinton's rapes included in that number?
mau August 23, 2012 at 06:56 PM
@The Anti-Alinsky, you are dead on. The magician waves his magic wand and diverts everyone's attention from AFGHANISTAN.....GUANTANAMO BAY.....IMMIGRATION.....
Joana Briggs August 23, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Jason you got a great discussion going and now you are resorting to junior high bully references. The true facts speak very loudly. In answer to the question am I doing better: NO!! Same amount coming in but 25% increase in cost of living. All projections from all over the place including Obama budget indicate another 25% increase in expenses plus a reduction in my Social Security. Yes, I am collecting the Social Security I paid into for most of my working life.
Randy1949 August 23, 2012 at 07:33 PM
@Joana -- Do you seriously think the Romney/Ryan ticket will preserve your Social Security/Medicare and reduce your cost of living?
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 07:34 PM
Jason, your 1.2 million sounded unrealistic. I'm not sure where the CDC came up with those numbers. Researching was a little tough, since for some reason the FBI and DOJ seem more interested in percentages and trends. However, I did find a nice little article from MS magazine ( http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/05/02/25-facts-about-rape-in-america/ ) that puts the actual estimate at 300,000, which is still 300,000 than it should be. There were 1.21 million abortions in 2008 (hey, there's your 1.2 million number) according to guttmacher. ( http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.pdf ). So if you count all 300,000 rapes as unwanted pregnancies that end in abortion, you still have some 900,000 women using abortion as a solution for irresponsible behavior. And regardless of the anti-life (abortion) issue, our biggest problem in this country is the stagnant economy and getting quality leadership in the Whitehouse, Senate and House that will do something to create jobs and get the economy moving again.
The Anti-Alinsky August 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM
And Jason, please stop wagging the dog. The real issue in this election is the poor economy, lack of jobs, and need for REAL leadership in Washington!
Randy1949 August 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM
In other words, kindly ignore the fact that some GOP candidates for the Senate are real idiots. Move along, there's nothing to see here.
Ima Hippee August 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM
M.S. - something about that VP being a heart beat away made me cough up my Purple Cush. Something about Joe Biden. Whatever happened to him anyway? He has been very quiet.


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