Who is Responsible for the Deaths in Benghazi?

There are two main parties the are responsible for the death of American Heroes.

Yesterday, I read an article regarding the soldiers that stand guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington National Cemetery.  It pointed out that while many were fleeing the eastern seaboard, these men would stand at their post no matter the weather.  As the video points out, the tomb has been guarded 24-7 since 1937, no matter the weather conditions.  We can certainly assume that they will be there as Sandy roared through. 

These men work a grueling shift isolated and living with the sole purpose to honor these heroes that have been laid to rest unidentified.  I had the honor to witness the changing of the guard last year in the middle of a pouring rain and 50 degree weather.  It was my second time at the Tomb and my respect and admiration for those guards had not waned.  I felt a sense of duty to endure the rain and cold wind with these men as they paced.  This got me to thinking about the debacle in Benghazi and how we have in place a man to guard a tomb of dead soldiers, but no man to guard those of the living. 

Now of course our country has a military, the best in the world, which should be able to orchestrate a precision attack from nearly anywhere on the planet.  We were able to launch an attack in Pakistan that took out Osama Bin Laden. Despite this strength, we weren’t able to get a team into Benghazi during a 7 hour fire fight? 

By all accounts, this attack was not only known about in full scale by the administration, they also had a live feed to the action on the ground.  A video streaming from a drone and the cameras in the Consulate showing in real time the attacks on our Ambassador and the other Americans in that location, but nothing was done.  This presidency literally watched as an Ambassador and 3 Americans were gunned down by Muslim extremists. 

Our President should be the one guarding those ‘living’ American citizens.  He should be the leader that ensures our ultimate safety from forces outside our country.  He should be the man responsible for the protection of our sovereign soil.  Our president was presented with an opportunity to protect American life and he failed.  This was not a simple failure of policy or a failure at an attempted rescue; rather this was a failure of duty.  The inability to carry out the Duty he swore to uphold when he assumed office.  However, I am not holding him solely responsible.  There is another group of people that will have blood on their hands.  

As the facts present themselves and the inaction of this administration becomes clearer, those that continue to support this president are equally responsible for the deaths of the US citizens in Benghazi.  Did you pull trigger that killed these men?  No.  Did you watch the attacks on live video feed and do nothing?  No.  Did you instruct the administration to stand down and watch our heroes being slaughtered?  No.  As I see, voting to re-elect Obama tells the nation that his actions were the correct ones.  Voting for Obama tells the nation you agree that an American Ambassador and 3 other Americans are expendable when a political agenda is involved.  Voting for Obama tells the nation that you are okay with this happening again. I understand that some in this country believe that Keynesian Policy is good economically, that a large centralized government is beneficial and that massive social welfare system can help all; but I fail to understand anyone who supports a man that refuse to protect American life.

Watching the various Youtube videos of the men marching the 21 steps back and forth in front of the Tomb of the Unknowns, I find the actions of the president incomprehensible.  He was unwilling to even provide air support to Americans who were relaying the location of the enemy for targeting purposes.  Unlike the dedication of our men in uniform, including the men in Libya that decided to help knowing full well they may not survive; our current president has no allegiance to the country he leads.  Rather he is simply dedicated to his own political preservation.

So for Obama supporters the question this election cycle is clear.  Which side do you find yourself, the side of United States or the side of Barrack Obama? After the Libya attacks, those choices are no longer one in the same.

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FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 05:08 PM
"Clearly meant... Liberal audience... lame stream media..." ??? When did you start this opionion? The day of the Rose Garden Address or when Fixed - I mean Fox - News began it's distorted critsisms?
Craig October 31, 2012 at 05:15 PM
Freddo: You forgot to mention 'this was only a protest that grew out of hand, and sending military action would be seen as an act of war by the US.' Obama is a rare quality? Try Obama is an inept, incapable, insufficient Muslim Brotherhood sympatheizer. This is treason. The only reason he is hiding the truth is 98% of REAL Americans would want him removed from office- if they knew the truth. The fact is you will not accept the truth, when it is finally revealed you will dismiss it as lies and racism. ( that pretty much sums up Liberalism 101 )
Michael McClusky October 31, 2012 at 05:18 PM
@St Swithin The Administration will be sure to have the facts come out after the election. Then it won't give a damn what people think.
CowDung October 31, 2012 at 05:23 PM
I have to differ with you on the treason thing, Craig. As much as I disapprove of the way Obama handled the situation, I can't go so far as to say it is treason.
Craig October 31, 2012 at 05:25 PM
FTTroy: Try to keep up.. I addressed this after the debate where Romney pointed out the President's lie that this was a protest grown out of hand. I even supplied a link to Obama's teleprompted speech so you could judge for yourself. Clearly, you have not read it. Ponder this: Still think Obama was right to send in air support to overthrow the regime in the first place? Did he know that the Muslim Brotherhood would take controll? What kind of Foreign Policy is that?
Fred van der Wal October 31, 2012 at 05:34 PM
@Craig:please explain REAL Americans. and then what are the not so real Americans? As far as truth goes,history is filled with it,each add his/her own truth to that.
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 05:35 PM
I will tell you what I believe. I believe Ghadaphi was an evil dictator who tortured and killed his own people. I believe troops were sent to destroy the city and if it wasn't for the air support, it would have happened. I also believe if the President did nothing, he would have been criticized for it, too... considering he was criticized over every point in every direction on Fox News anyway, I think I am safe to say that. So your point is that Ghadaphi is better than the Muslim Brootherhood? Would you prefer another puppet dictator - friendly to America yet terrible to it's people. I am not a fan of extremism. I believe in secularism totally in every circumstance. This is the very reason we have seperation of church and state in this country and the thought we were founded on Christian Principles is absurd. And if you want to tell me there is no extremism in the Christian faiths, then I am not the one with his head in the sand. Anyway - the Middle East needs a great deal of focus. Lybia, as a whole, is an ally and a friend. We need to root out the extremism and engage local governments... even the Muslim Brotherhood.
Greg October 31, 2012 at 05:36 PM
FTT, Why then did the Obama administration say it was not terrorism, rather just a "reaction to a video"? And to my original point, how could the attack be viewed as anything but terrorism, for whatever the reason of the attack? This was handled wrong reguardless of who was in charge, and like Obama said "the buck stops with him".
Brian Dey October 31, 2012 at 05:38 PM
FTT- So then you agreed with the Iraq War, I take it?
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 05:40 PM
I do agree. The buck stops with the President. He has never wavered from this. My point is to blow the situation - tragedy that it is - to the President is a traitor and Muslim sympathizer and Fox News what not is flat out extreme and out of line.
cud1555 October 31, 2012 at 05:45 PM
I'm not willing to "blindly accept" what Fox News says however there is written evidence to people in the administration explaining what had happened and painting at the very least a picture that this did not all stem from a youtube video. I can accept that the decision was made that despite requests for increased security to the embassy there was none given. I would imagine that these requests and threat assessments are made regularly and the people who made the decision did so with the best information at their hands. I can accept that the initial attack was a surprise and the ambassador likely would have been lost before help could arrive. I can not accept that after this had happened for hours, the decision was not made to at least scramble a force to react within minutes if needed and I can not accept that with our overwhelming air superiority we were not able to have an aircraft or two dedicated to providing air support if needed. Mostly however if we accept that we did not want to put more people in harms way, instead of charging in with horse and bayonet we could have used some of these things we have now called UAV's or drones. They are there to observe and if needed provide guided ordinance into needed areas. What is odd is that it is widely mentioned of the President okaying the use of them to make strikes in Pakistan as well as okaying a strike which thankfully resulted in the killing of Bin Laden but would not do so when a U.S. ambassador had been taken.
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 06:04 PM
I read and saw the entire speech. It was a somber affair and not close to the need of vitrol I have seen the past few months.
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 06:08 PM
I never agreed with the Iraq War once I heard Colin Powel tell the UN it's reasons. Too bad they were lies. My mind changed once the lies were uncovered. But I did not speculate they were lies. I did find it odd we invated Iraq who claimed to have no WMDs compared to North Korea who flat out told the world they were developing them. I also remember the lead up. I remember UN Inspectors in Iraq and not finding anything. It's too bad the Administration had no problem trashing one of the most respected reputations in the country to get what they wanted.
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Gang - that was a typo... SORRY. I wanted to say I did agree with the action in Iraq when I heard Gen Powell. t Fat fingers. I think the rest turned out ok, but that first sentence turned out very odd.
Fred van der Wal October 31, 2012 at 06:19 PM
@Brian Dey: I'm sure with a bit more precaution and planning these lives could have been saved.Only if information available in Washington and there on the ground been better followed.This would not have happened. And even though I'm not a Pacifist,for I believe in a well maintained standing army in any ay at any point needed.We indeed invaded Libya for less and many other regions,it was always under the umbrella of securing American interests.Sometimes good people die unintended but part of a chess game.Not for the first time the government in the past used people to reach it's goal.But why not approach this without military might and take a step back and consider how to avoid a regional outburst of violence against American interests.Granted it's something un-American,perhaps even hard to vision but.......
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Craig - I find this entire subject a nit pick of semantics only to criticize the President who is so much stronger in foreign policy than his opponent it's laughable.
Kathy Tomassetti October 31, 2012 at 06:32 PM
I cannot believe that Americans are not so outraged at the cover up the media is partisipating in to cover Obama's involvement in allowing men to die...if I was a witness to a high school fight that involved weapons and continued on, with certainty that someone would be seriously hurt and I did nothing and called no one, even when they asked for help and didn't seek help, I would be hung by every reporter that covered the story....people would call me an accomplice....and yet we allow the President of our Country to put his hands in the air, claim ignorance and we allow that !!!...he has gotten away with passing his ridiculous Obamacare, we are ready to absorb the largest tax increase in history, he has driven up our debt to unsustainable and historical levels and now he is being absolved of murder....wow...he's got you all fooled !!!...just keep watching the shiny object and don't look behind the curtain....!!!...anyone that supports this man for the leader of the free world should really examine their motives and not follow the union rule !!!
FreeThought Troy October 31, 2012 at 06:39 PM
So you disagree with the Iraq War, too. Good we can agree on something at least
Lyle Ruble October 31, 2012 at 06:52 PM
@Brian Dey....You are making all kinds of assumptions without access to the facts, which are probably not going to released because of national security issues. BTW, did I miss the invasion of Libya? Until we have some verifiable information, I will withhold my judgement. You and the other political right wing nuts are attempting to politicize a tragedy to push your own political agenda. There is a reason why they call it the fog of war. You are assuming that we had knowledge that we or may not have had. In addition, to call in an AC-130 "Spooky" would be a recipe for disaster. The way it works is that it devastates a wide area and would cause too much collateral damage. If there were observation drones, why would you or anyone else expect them to be armed? Even with precision weapons how would targets be selected? Who precisely were the bad guys and their locations? You call on a rapid strike group to mount a rescue, but by the time they get there it's over. Seven hours is not a whole lot of time for combat planning unless you already have a plan in place and it doesn't appear that they did. Therefore, it would be wise to reel back the outrage and demands for accountability until we have more verifiable evidence. We entered a war in 1898 with Spain over faulty information on the sinking of the USS Maine. George W. did it again in 2003 with faulty information leading to the invasion of Iraq. BTW, I'm still waiting to see the WMD that Iraq had.
Greg October 31, 2012 at 07:34 PM
Combat plan - Defend Embassy.....that took less than 2 seconds to formulate, 6h 59m 58s remaining.
Brian Dey October 31, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Lyle- Apparently you did miss something. You know where Obama led from behind? Those are not assumptions, my friend. Most has been obtained through email. There may be conjecture to the termination of the Admiral and General, but don't you find it odd that the two, who again we have email communications, were terminated at the same time? Like I said. Obama is stone walling. Four Americans died, and we are nearly two months out, and no press conference by the President. Not exactly past Presidential protocol. Instead, Obama takes such hard driven interviews by the likes of Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, the View, etc... What's next, Dr. Oz? You leftwing-nuts have all the answers. So if something like this were to happen under Romney's watch, you would just sit and wait for answers? The fogof war? What about a quick fly over with machine guns fired in the air? If it would have scared a few of them off, at least some effort would have been made. Like I said, there are communications that specifically stated that targets were acquired. They had intel from phone calls and the drone. In other words, they had "eyes" on the ground. The outrage is that the President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and the U.N. Ambassador all tried to pass this off as riots created by some obscure You Tube video for 18 days. Why? Your President won't answer.
Brian Dey October 31, 2012 at 08:13 PM
True Fred, but the military violence was already undertaken by this administration in the "lead from behind" ouster of Ghadaffi. What was the President and Secretary of State thinking, not granting additional security to its embassy and consulate after it was requested three times. You would figure that some people in the region might not be happy with the U.S. after we invaded it. You have to know that some people might have not appreciated you killin their leader. Or you would figure that Al Qaeda would take advantage of the region which the U.S. recently attacked on the anniversary of their greatest triumph. I think a 12 year old could have figured that out. All those that criticized Bush on the poor intelligence that led to the Iraq, now want to give Obama a pass with the same excuse. It is pathetic. Not accusing you, just venting.
Brian Dey November 01, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Seems everytime Bren is challenged on the facts and common sense, Bren cut and runs from the blog. Must be that supreme high intelligence and vast experience that only Bren has.
Ima Hippee November 01, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Bren -" Ima, others in this thread are arguing but trying to learn I believe. What do you bring to the table?" I certainly do not bring the crap to the table like you do. I am not here to learn from you.
Ima Hippee November 01, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Fred - First, let me grab the Kleenex. I am laughing so hard here it hurts. I wish it was the purple cush but it is your insipid drivel. Maybe we should have given the Libyans juice boxes and animal crackers and ask that since this is such a sensitive political situation to take it easy on us? We do not want those angry Libyans mad at us.
Ima Hippee November 01, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Fred - crawl back.
Luke November 01, 2012 at 11:52 AM
51days since Obama began his "investigation" into what happened. ::chuckle::
Steve ® November 01, 2012 at 03:32 PM
He's hiding behind a hurricane now.
Fred van der Wal November 01, 2012 at 04:09 PM
@Steve saying that "He's hiding behind a hurricane now" is a rather insensitive and foolish statement.I would think that a natural disaster here calls for his primary attention.Just because you and your participants are unhappy how Obama has dealt with the Benghazi affair.A Republican Governor in the state of New Jersey sure not complaining of the attention by the President.
Fred van der Wal November 01, 2012 at 04:23 PM
@ Ima Hippee: you can tell alter my name for personal humor or tell me top go back from where I came from just to enforce that you(r's) don't like what I post here.Fact is I can LEGAL to this country not climbed over a wall south of the border or came here in Florida while incorrectly charting out a fishing trip on a sad looking boat.I married a wonderful woman from American origin.And the privilege given by some great people from the past I use where many Europeans died in this country:Allow me to speak my mind,although not as eloquence as most here, where or not 200 years later people on Waukeha patch like it or not. @Craig:regardless if or what the President will release I doubt if your happy with the outcome.I'm sure it will not alter your opinion of him or chance or vote.


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