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The burden of healing the Wisconsin divide lies on the Democrats.

Now that this joke of a recall is behind us, the challenge appears to be uniting the state.  Scott Walker has already been expected to heal the rift and bring both political parties to the table.  It was the theme of Tom Barrett’s concession speech and Walker himself describe coming together as the next step in moving Wisconsin forward.  Yet, are Wisconsin Democrats really ready to come together?

During the recall election, Walker made known that he felt the change in collective bargaining laws could have been handled differently.  However, it is important to understand that this does not mean changing the bill, it means getting more information out to the Wisconsin public.  Walker understood that in 2010, balancing the budget and loosening the grip of public sector unions was the reason he was elected into power.  As we move forward it is important to understand he had the will of people on his side as the GOP brought forth legislation in the first year of his term.

Having won by an even larger margin on June 5th, 2012 than he did in November of 2010, fortifies this stance that the voters of Wisconsin are not in favor of liberal policy that is crippling other states.  This also means that moving forward the voters of Wisconsin expect the same fiscally responsible conservative policy enacted as they had already seen from Scott Walker.  Therefore, the burden of coming together lies squarely on the shoulders of Democrats in Wisconsin.  Are they prepared to accept that Wisconsinites want a strong conservative leader?

Based on the concession speeches given by both Barrett and Mitchell, I don’t believe they want any level of unity.  During Barrett’s speech he told his supporters, “Never, ever stop doing what you think is right.”  This came after he told the crowd that what they did to get to this election was “right”.  He did not tell his supporter to join the governor in his fight to put Wisconsin on the top nationally in jobs, education or quality of life.  Instead, he instructed his supporters to continue to challenge the governor as they have.  Barrett in losing, wants his supporters to stand against what the people of Wisconsin have said in back-to-back gubernatorial elections.

Mitchell’s speech was much more in your face and aggressive than Barrett’s.  As a union representative, what we witnessed from Mitchell was not a sign that he expected things to change.  Instead, what we got was the same drum thumping union bullying the people of Wisconsin rejected.  Saying things like, “This is a way of life that we always have to keep and that we cannot let up” as he discusses the union activism that drove this failed recall election.  He went on to explain to the crowd that this is a “fight we are in and a fight that did not end today whether we won or lost.”  Throughout his concession speech he rallied the crowd and encouraged them to stand against the voters of Wisconsin and against the governor.  He intentionally took the microphone to divide.

In the end June 5th has proven that the division of this state has been lead by Democrats and their supporters.  It has also shown us the path to unity; a path that leads towards a joint effort with Scott Walker to enact pro-business fiscally responsible conservative legislation.  This recall election, Walker’s 2010 win, the votes in last years recall elections and the election of the Judge Prosser have all been directly related to Walker’s performance and the direction the state of Wisconsin should be headed.   It is clear the voters do not want to see Walker sacrifice his position on current government policy.  Rather the people of Wisconsin have said in four consecutive elections that they expect Democrats to join with Walker to fix the divide and bring Wisconsin together.  The next two years will show whether the Democrats truly stand with the voters of Wisconsin or if they wish to continue to pander to their union special interest as Mahlon Mitchell is advocating.

Craig June 6, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Sean: What they were doing was being done indecently. People forced their way into the building via a window, people crapped on the floor, shouting as a means to disrupt the process is no different than a temper tantrum.
There is a proper way to do things, this is usually something that is learned with maturity. What you see in the video is mob mentality. Collectively they are as stupid as the dumbest single digit in the group. It is seeing things like this that pissed me off enough to move farther to the right. I was a Libertarian. Now I am a very conservative Republican, and will likely vote that way for a long, long time. Those hippies motivated people like me like kicking a beehive!
Craig June 6, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@Lyle: If you factor out the people who signed the recall petitions, Barrett got about 10% of the vote. Remove the Tribal mentality of protests, the union propaganda (and money they spent to kick off the recall), and there was no contest.
I know you do not agree with me on Social issues, but certainly you understand kicking the beehive?
Randy1949 June 6, 2012 at 10:56 pm
J.B. -- The last percentages I read were Walker/Barrett 53/46. That's not such a small majority that you gentlemen ought to feel you have a sweeping mandate to change the face of the state.
I'm sure you'd like us to shut up now, and I will. Until a few years down the line when I will be allowed an 'I told you so'.
J. B. Schmidt June 6, 2012 at 11:10 pm
@Randy
You have the correct percentages, but what you are missing is that this is the 4th election in 2 years that the Democrats have pumped a huge amount of money and effort into. Each election was seen as a reflection on the work that Walker and GOP were doing in Madison. Not unlike a 4 game series in baseball, it has little to do with how close the games are if you sweep the series.
Steve ® June 7, 2012 at 01:46 am
Sean -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuqM1LEi5c The silent majority defines a representative republic (our democracy) as going to the polls. NOT taking over the capitol for months on end, popping on the floors, yelling, banging on drums, disrupting normal business, class tours, entrances, property damage, threatening businesses if they do not put certain signs in their windows, death threats, yelling at political families, protesting at family residences.....
Sean Lee June 7, 2012 at 02:00 am
@ Steve and Craig
You're right. Its absolutely disgusting what some of the people have done during the insane protests. Its irresponsible. But the pure form of protesting is a wonderful thing. You can't say that all protesters are irresponsible hippies because of a couple irresponsible people doing stupid things. Think back to civil rights movement. People saw the protesters then as disruptive and irresponsible, but they were simply voicing their opinion the only way they could. The protesters at Madison (and I'm talking about the responsible majority of them) were practicing their Constitutional rights and their own civic duty to voice their opinions. You also forget to remember the people who stood in the cold Wisconsin winter asking for signatures to petition for the recall. THAT is democracy in action. I personally think the recall was uncalled for (no pun intended), but I cannot deny that it was a powerful display of democracy and it makes me proud to be American. This post places the responsibility of unification on the Democrats shoulders, but it sure seems like its not JUST the Democrats who divide. Using words like propaganda, chimpanzees, and hippies certainly does not help to unite. Who in their right minds would want to agree with people like that?
Greg June 7, 2012 at 02:07 am
The electorate can be broken into 4 groups:
1) The people that were against Walker. (Most of Barrett's votes) 2) The people people that were for Barrett. (Barrett and his wife) 3) The people that were for Walker and the reforms. (The vast majority) 4) The people that were against the recall. (unknown, but present) A quick look at this list (item 2) shows that Barrett would have probably done better if he had attempted to present a platform, but then again, probably not.
Greg June 7, 2012 at 02:20 am
Sean, I have not seen you here before. Remember that some of the people doing name calling on this blog have been here for a long time and have been called everything in the book. Also, protest has it's place. The unions started their tantrum and poor democrat leadership fanned the flames. Protests are raw emotion and emotion cannot win an issue. Facts and reason will prevail, and it did.
Craig June 7, 2012 at 02:39 am
Sean: Greg makes a good point. Despite that....
You seem to be an intelligent, respectful person. You may find that those who have different opinions than you will treat you with respect because of that. Lyle Ruble is one of those people who have earned respect from those on the right- well, most of them. There are always a few loonie tunes out there. You are correct about name calling; I have done my fair share of that. What you haven't witnessed is the endless insults we endured the whole time this recall was in process. Some posters have been harassed at their homes. I witnessed the peaceful protesters living in the Capital making a mess- that seems disrespectful to me. I protest with my vote, I may even protest with letters. But I do not disrupt the process to hurt everyone who depends on it. We had the ultimate show of democracy in action- an election. Let's hope we don't have to go through that again anytime soon.
James R Hoffa June 7, 2012 at 02:51 am
Anyone seen Schmitzy - I want my $50!
Greg June 7, 2012 at 02:56 am
James, Let me know when you want to go do some collecting.
--- June 7, 2012 at 02:57 am
As an out-of-Stater, (I'm in CT), I gotta tell ya that Tuesday evening's result has served as a shot across the bow of SS Obama and the Royal Democrat Fleet of Jackassery.
Many of us are inspired. The folks in WI did the right thing, indeed. It has been noticed. Long Live the Republic.
Greg June 7, 2012 at 03:02 am
If you send Schmitz's fifty to Romney, I'll send a hundred.(Milwaukee-eze, as in highway a hundred)
James R Hoffa June 7, 2012 at 03:03 am
Will do Greg.
The time and location will be disclosed here on Patch, that is of course if Schmitzy mans up and honors his wager...
Greg June 7, 2012 at 03:04 am
We could not be more proud or happy.
Thank you for your thoughts.
James R Hoffa June 7, 2012 at 03:04 am
Thanks Donald - and you're welcome ;-)
Keep up the good fight!
Steve ® June 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm
BOOOOOOM
Walker dropped the BOMB on SS Obama. Call the coast guard Donald
Steve ® June 7, 2012 at 12:32 pm
►Keith Schmitz
6:47 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012 What's you address. I'll mail you the check.◄ omgomgomg http://menomoneefalls.patch.com/articles/how-did-gov-scott-walker-survive-the-recall
--- June 7, 2012 at 05:43 pm
Hey, I can see November 2012 from Wisconsin! Imagine that, all you liberal mouth-breathers who crowed arrogantly about how the Walker recall would set the template for Obama's 2012 win. Heh.
Chris Wade June 7, 2012 at 08:48 pm
eventually we will grow out of all of this.
Dave Kube June 8, 2012 at 11:30 am
I can't access utube where i am at...but the whole 'cratic agenda reminds me of the ol' Styx song 'The Grand Illusion'...go buy that brand new motor car with the hand out check from the government....
Bert June 8, 2012 at 05:43 pm
Let me understand this - when Obama fails to get the obstructionist Republicans to do a single damn thing to help the economy, it's Obama's failure of leadership for the divisive tone in Washington. When Walker's policies, shoved through by all-Republican chambers in the legislature - cause an out-and-out civil war, it's all the Democrats' fault? You people are insane. Walker is the governor of Wisconsin, not the governor of the Republicans in Wisconsin. It is HIS responsibility to LEAD in a way that does not demonize and alienate entire swaths of the citizenry.
As to the meaning of Walker's win (or avoidance of being recalled, rather), it's important to note the significant level of anti-recall votes. Walker got the vote of 17% of stated Obama supporters. It's highly unlikely that these voters were expressing their pleasure in Walker's right-wing agenda. They were voting because they believed the recall process was illegitimate. Republicans can take this as some sort of mandate to run even further to the right if they wish. In fact, I really hope they do. Putting the real agenda on display is the quickest and surest way to return the state to sanity.
Bert June 8, 2012 at 05:46 pm
Three different exit polls showed Obama's lead over Romney at 7, 8, and 11 points. A lot of Walker's votes were from people voting against the legitimacy of the recall, not for Walker. Take it as a cue to go even further to the right, please! Might just get Obama back to the 14 points he won here by last time.
Bert June 8, 2012 at 05:49 pm
Walker got the vote of 17% of Obama supporters. Highly doubtful those voters were in group 3. Given the three different exit polls showing Obama with 7, 8, and 11 point leads over Romney, I'd say group 4 was quiet a bit larger, and group 3 was far from a "vast" majority.
Bert June 8, 2012 at 05:53 pm
Sean, you miss the point. The right wing in America, just like the right wing in 1930's Germany, is not interested in debate. They want to silence and remove the opposition, so as to be free to impose their will without resistance. Why else do you think they are so opposed to making it easier for people to vote, for example?
Bert June 8, 2012 at 05:57 pm
JB - Right, and if the economy doesn't take off, well that will just be Obama's fault. Of course, while Democrats are "duped" by unions, every Republican is a free-thinking master of logic, totally immune to misinformation doled out by massive info-tainment machines like News Corp. or talk radio! I mean, you NEVER hear right wingers use verbatim talking points directly from Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh when making an argument! (In other words, you probably don't want to use the "misinformed" argument... Something about glass houses...)
Bert June 8, 2012 at 06:00 pm
Exit polling from Tuesday's election showed Obama leading Romney by 7, 8, and 11 points (three different polls). Walker got 17% of the vote from Obama supporters. That was not an ideological vote, nor a vote in favor of Walker and his agenda. It was a vote against the legitimacy of the recall.
James R Hoffa June 8, 2012 at 06:12 pm
Spin, spin, and more spin.
The real agenda has already been put on display - it's called fiscal responsibility, demanding efficiency from government, returning power to the local level, and limiting the size of government. What part don't you understand exactly? And that's what people voted for - the message! You honestly want us to believe that people who adamantly stand opposed to Walker's agenda and believe that he represents the worst thing in American politics today went out to the polls and voted for him anyway in some kind of symbolic vote and/or stand against recalls?!?! The koolaid in liberal land must be getting stronger instead of weaker! You may want to layoff your constant exposure to MSNBC and the Daily Kos - it's having adverse effects on your ability to reason and think for yourself.
Kenneth London June 11, 2012 at 02:54 am
When Divide and Conquer is your mantra - bringing people together does not matter. It is all a game. But I do not think this is as dominating a victory as being portrayed in right-leaning blogs like these. 53-47%. And, as pointed out - many of the exit polls identified an anti-recall vote - not necessarily a endorsement of the union busting agenda. 17% of Walker supporters also support President Obama. And Racine County actually recalled Republican Wanggaard by 800 votes. So please - this is not a dramatic, catastrophic shift in ideology in this state. Just as Obama's victory did not mark the beginning of a new left-dominated national political scene - Walker's survival of a recall does not mark the beginning of some new conservative dominance in the state.
Both sides are beholden to their special interests. Both sides are simple political gamesmen - some of them have a set of values that they actually believe in. Both sides, of course, feel they are right. It is not going to get more quiet. It will get louder. More money. More "digging in". In the end - no one really wins except the local radio and tv stations.
Kenneth London June 11, 2012 at 02:57 am
LOL - wow - I almost pictured some sort of superhero figure with a shield and a spear. Actually - he's a politician. Always has been. Always will be. You can think he is liberating you - but really - he's just pushing his party's agenda just like Obama, Barrett, Tommy Thompson, George Bush, etc, etc. Thats what politicians do. Well, besides raise a lot of money.

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