Elections come and go with only minor effects on the American public. We have seen our fair share of depressions, recession and booms. All the while, the America that drove the last century of global development and innovation continued to thrive. It was driven by individual aspirations and a government that encouraged success through the Constitutional development of non-intervention.
This election will be different. It is not the end of America and it will not be seen as the beginning of the end. In truth, that beginning has been at work since our founding. This election signals the first time the citizens of the United States accepted the terms of the end. It has taken 223 years to degrade our Constitution and now it is recognizable only as a loose set of ideals from a time gone by.
No country on this planet in which the citizens use the government as an intermediary between takers and producers has survived. Prior to 2012, it was this denial to do so in the United States that separated our existence from that of our failing counterparts in Europe. With the acceptance that the government should become heavily involved in the interactions of takers and producers, we will no longer be a country that spreads success throughout the world. Instead, we have entered the perpetually declining existence of a country controlled by those that don’t sacrifice for it; yet, expect their fellow citizens to sacrifice for them.
Government dependency is the opiate for the masses. It instills hope in its promise of a better life through faith in its leaders. Providing your daily sustenance in easy to consume and easy to desire forms. Building passion through the ideology of distrust and demanding discipleship in the voting booth based on the fear of opiate removal.
This dependency can no longer be stopped, but rather like any drug its use will gradually get worse. As current forms of dependency fail to meet the wants if the 47%, they will demand a leader that promises higher dosages of dependency and buck all those intent on restraining the use of dependency. A point will be reached, around the same time of the full implementation of Obamacare, when dependency will be established as the new norm and our country will discontinue private production of certain services that were vital to our previous existence as individuals.
What the 47% fails to understand is that we only have a finite amount of money. You can only rob a set number of people and you can only sell a one or two internal organs before the money needed to sustain the addiction runs dry. Having already borrowed $6 trillion to produce a net result of zero growth in four years; how much borrowing is required to produce growth? Assuming that government spending to produce growth is possible, we will have created a debt that consumes interest at a rate that makes repayment impossible and sustainability of current services improbable.
In the end, the American existence that once created the ability for success will die. As more money is required to fill the wants of the takers, the income level of the producers will continue to decrease. The government will continue as it has; increasing regulations, increasing restrictions and decreasing service in order to fill the gap between the amount they can take from the producers and the amount required by the takers. An unemployment rate of 8% or above will be ordinary and mediocrity rather then success will be the United States we pass on to the next generation. The United States, once a powerful world leader, protector and supporter that could be relied on for assistance, will become neutered by its own people for the sake of their own desires.
We had a chance to correct the errors of government dependence and rather then taking responsibility for our current situation we chose the selfish need for instant gratification. Most devastating result of this election is that we will only be able to tell our children of American Exceptionalism and not show them how to attain it. We have arrived at the time that progressives have dreamed about since the signing of the Constitution; a heavy handed central government and the development of the system of elections in which votes could be purchased through the manipulation of government entitlements.
The 47% now owns this portion of American history. The days of blaming Bush are gone. They have accepted our demise based on their own wants. Lust of success is what started this push hundreds of years ago and it is that same lust which drives our own decline.
Do you really think that Chrysler is going to choose to pay their taxes at the higher US rate when they can save money by paying taxes to China instead? They are going to follow the lead of every other multinational company and pay their taxes where it is most financially advantageous.
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic" - Benjamin Franklin
Point 1: Chrysler currently exports Jeeps to China. Exporting product creates American jobs. Mitt Romney claimed that by expanding production facilities in China, we'd lose American jobs. You said that was a lie. Clearly, it wasn't unless you're claiming that domestic demand will all of sudden exponentially increase to make up for the loss in demand of product needed for export. And if that's the case, then please provide your source or admit that Romney wasn't lying after all. Point 2: The need to manufacture in China to be competitive in China derives from China's unfair trade policies, currency manipulation, and lax (by comparison) labor, environmental, regulatory, and taxation standards. Romney said he'd take on China to make trade more balanced and fair, which would be beneficial to our industrial/manufacturing workforce. Obama, by contrast, hasn't done very much except to prosecute complaints with the WTO - which hasn't changed very much! China needs our marketplace for their goods more than we need to consume their cheaply produced goods. Romney wanted to get tough on China, while Obama cowers, fearful of what a 'trade war' may do. Those are the points you half-wit!
That's what the left does when they know they've been beaten by the great Hoffa - clearly the superior intellect!
Based on your illogical train of thought, wouldn't all companies that export then be free to move all production of those exports over seas? Is that the solution you favor? In essence what you want it a country that only manufactures for the needs of its people and nothing more. Please explain then how we ever achieve a reasonable level of employment when you have now artificially capped production? Especially considering that we have millions of people in the US employed making exports, where do those jobs go in your world?
You really are a babe in the woods. Firms ARE free to produce and sell wherever they can. That's not the "solution I favor," that's reality. If you were at all committed to, or conversant in, free market principles, I wouldn't have to explain this to you. The US needs to take the problem of its competitive advantage seriously, there's no question about that. And what is our competitive advantage vs. China? Why, it's primarily the rule of law! The fact that we have regulations that ensure that US made products are safe, and that intellectual property is protected! You know, all that "government" stuff that you hate so much! And seriously - if you had any credibility on this issue, you'd be insisting that the US government, the one purchaser that SHOULD be buying according to US national interest, sources ALL of its purchases in the USA. But no; conservatives would rather privatize everything, and put our tax dollars in the hands of buyers that have no responsibility to buy American made products. Let's just wrap it up by pointing out that my business is in manufacturing, and we source items from all over North America, Asia, and Europe. You and Hoffa can spout off about how it's wrong and bad for America for Chrysler to make and sell cars in China, but it's clear to me, and to anyone else who makes their living this way, that you have no idea what you're talking about.
If you had stated from the beginning that you suffered ADD, we probably would have approached this from a different direction. Seriously, could you focus for a minute. Are you saying that Jeep is moving it production over seas because they feel constrained by US laws on safety and intellectual property rights? Is it in the governments best interest to purchase a product at an inflated price in order to buy American? Are you saying that the government should be doing more to subsidize private sector jobs? At what cost to the tax payer? Or is that irrelevant? "Privatize everything", are we still talking about auto companies? What if the government lowered taxes by cutting subsidies out of the federal budget, then US manufacturers could produce a product at lower cost and make it a better purchase for the government. It appears that you are in favor of companies taking their jobs over seas.
Never mind, you guys have fun licking your wounds and doubling down on the idiocy that led to Tuesday's result. I'll just kick back and bask in the fact that all of the bitching, moaning, mudslinging and doomsaying you tried over the last 4 years had NO EFFECT! The history lesson that covers the Tea Party will be short and sweet: "Angry white people, working themselves up and wasting their own time while the rest of the world passed them by."
"JB, that's a fair question, since there were so many. However, I'm referring to the implication that building Jeeps in Asia, for Asian markets, the same way foreign car companies build cars in the US, for the US market, is somehow "shipping jobs overseas." Just let me know if you still don't understand, and then pay me $100/hr, and I'll explain that aspect of international business to you." As Hoffa demonstrated to you via Marchionne's comment, Jeep currently exports US produced/assembled product to China for sale there. Thus, some of the demand that is driving the domestic Jeep factories is vested in providing exports to China. Are you claiming that if Jeep started producing all Chinese market Jeeps in China, instead of here as they currently are to a certain extent, that it wouldn't constitute "shipping jobs overseas," by lowering the demand placed on the US factories? In fact, that's exactly what it would do and you basically admit to this. The debate here isn't what's in the best interest of globally competitive business - it's over the allegation that you made about Romney supposedly lying. Hoffa proved that Romney was not lying, and you appear to agree with this. So, just admit that you were WRONG in accusing Romney of lying about Jeep and get on with living your life with your head up your rectum, such as it is.
What do you think about the Obama campaign claiming that Romney was personally responsible for the death/murder of Joe Soptic's wife? Was that a factually accurate portrayal, or might it "have been the least bit misleading?" It's up to the voter to investigate for themselves and decide on the shade's of gray. Personally, Hoffa feels that Romney's over generalizations were far more fair than those made by Obama during this election! Also, we were working within the confines of Taoist's original statement: "I'm referring to the implication that building Jeeps in Asia, for Asian markets, the same way foreign car companies build cars in the US, for the US market, is somehow "shipping jobs overseas."" And clearly, Jeep upping production in China would in fact be "shipping jobs overseas," right? Or do you have proof that domestic demand will instantaneously exponentially increase, completely alleviating the loss of demand for product for export to China? And if you do, then how come you and your crystal ball aren't making millions in the business sector?
The word 'all' came directly out of Romney's lips. You can't get around that.
Also read the PPP and Daily Kos tied for most accurate polls this election cycle. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/romney-adviser-not-single-person-campaign-thought-he-would-lose?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Motherjones%2Fmojoblog+%28MotherJones.com+|+MoJoBlog%29 Romney Adviser: Not a Single Person on the Campaign Thought He Would Lose —By Dana Liebelson | Thu Nov. 8, 2012 2:45 PM PST Romney advisers are telling CBS News that there wasn't one person on the Romney campaign who saw the loss coming, and the GOP presidential candidate was "shellshocked" by the results. Here's what they have to say: "We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory...I don't think there was one person who saw this coming." "There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't...It was like a sucker punch." Romney "was shellshocked." The CBS story indicates that the Romney team even bought into the "unskewed polls" theory, believing that the polls dramatically underestimated Republican turnout and overestimated Democratic enthusiasm. ...
I would like you read the following Bloomberg article. Pay close attention to the following quote, “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html As for an Ranieir quote to the opposite, he can only speak for Jeep. Fiat can still move Jeep production where ever it wants. Mike Manley, as quoted, represents Fiat.
You are seeing what you want.
"Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China." Are you telling me that that sentence says something other than what it says?
Conformity for diversity's sake? That's not a remarkable statement coming from an old apparatchik like Lyle but it demonstrates how Leftism always leads to tyranny. First, an individual liberty (e.g. homosexual sex) is deemed so personal the government rightly has nothing to say about it. Then having identified a group of victims in need of protection and approval the high priests of political correctness demand the persecuted minority is celebrated as equal in all things. Finally, diversity and tolerance are coerced by government fiat in the name of progressive public policy and its detractors silenced and condemned. The fascist and Orwellian policy of compulsory conformity in the name of diversity must be resisted with the first two tools provided by the constitution: the first and second amendments. Freedom from government is the canary in the coalmine of liberty.
I always find the best people to ask about how to improve the corporate condition is the people WHO RUN CORPORATIONS.
@bigatlantasteve Bill Kristol on Fox News Sunday: 'You know what? It won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. It really won't.
Did you notice those billboards coming down in minority neighborhoods that inimidated voters? Did you notice the news coverage on letters to voters questioning their right to vote? True American patriots accomplished the defeat of those tactics, and the Tea Party slinked back into their primitive hole. The word had gotten to the Tea Party poll watchers not to cause turmoil. It was becoming a P.R. disaster for the Tea Party, getting the minority vote to get out and vote, and the Tea Party cooled it with the shouting and intimidation. Victory over suppression, thanks for your suppression efforts, it paid off for the other team.
Obama is not white, not black. Perfect for moving all of us moving ahead. Or are you just going on skin color? Lamentable.
Either you've got something to back up your nonsense, or you don't. Don't carp about the methodology. It's accepted and routinely used here. So cutting through all the crap, Dirk, essentially what you're saying is you've got nothing. Figures.