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POLL: Should the First Amendment Protect Hate Speech?

The shooter in Sunday's Sikh Temple slayings was connected to the white-supremacy music scene. Does that sort of expression deserve First Amendment protection?

 

Last Sunday’s tragic shootings at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek turned another spotlight on “hate speech” when the shooter, Wade Michael Page, was connected to the white-supremacy music scene, also known as “hatecore.”

Earlier this summer, a different version of hate speech came to southeast Wisconsin when members of the tiny but vocal Westboro Baptist Church picketed in front of churches in Brookfield and Oak Creek. They carried signs with phrases such as “God Hates Fags” and “Your Pastors are Whores.”

While one seemed at least loosely connected to a grisly mass murder and the other resulted in an uneventful protest, both forms of expression are protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Interpretations of and debate over that simple, powerful statement have continued for more than 200 years. From obscenity to libel to direct threats, government continually redefines what is exactly free speech. Patch blogger Lyle Ruble analyzes the matter in his most recent post, finally deciding that hate speech must be tolerated to protect other forms of expression. The Supreme Court recently backed the Westboro Baptist Church’s protests at military funerals.

Do you agree that hate speech deserves First Amendment protection? Vote in our poll and join the discussion in our Comments section.

  • Should the First Amendment protect hate speech?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        89 (85%)
    • No
        15 (14%)
    Total votes: 104
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Patch Poll, Sikh Temple Shooting, Wade Michael Page, Westboro Baptist Church, and Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooting

sally3141

6:24 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

I think before bannning "hate speech" it needs to have a clear definition. Everyone is of course entitled to express an opinion.

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Bucky

6:12 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

What about Rap Music then ?

Greg Hinze

7:33 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

If you Ban Hate speeches you have to ban good speeches too

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Eugene Barufkin

10:53 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Agree,
You can not be selective.
Blatant disruption of solemn events is one issue that gets a BIG NO from me,
Should respectful public advocacy, or not - Should be the real issue. YES from me!

Nicki

7:35 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

I am continualy amazed that, as Mr Schroeder states, this "simple, powerful statement" must be "interpreted", debated over and "redefined".

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Dave

7:57 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

A speech never killed anyone.

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wfb51

8:04 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

In the wake of the Aurora and Oak Creek shootings perhaps the better discussion should be about the rights (i.e. to move freely, obtain weapons, etc.) of the mentally ill. These - I can't even call them men - had exhibited behavior that in hindsight should have been examined. Also, the local boy who killed his Grandfather with an ax......

Obviously, not a return to "One Flew Over..." or forced sterilization days but some better protection of the public at large. Words alone don't kill.

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CatMM

8:12 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

There should be laws in place to better protect the rights of people to have funerals of their loved ones, free from those Westboro freaks. Michigan has a law now that they are not allowed to protest within 500 feet of a funeral.

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Nikki

8:13 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Yes, as hard as it is to swallow, "hate" speech should be protected... that's what America is about: free speech! My favorite quote came from a fictional president, Andy Shepard in the movie "The American President"... if only we had a President who really believed those things, our country would certainly not be where it is now... here's the quote:

"America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." ~ President Andrew Shepard (Michael Douglass), The American President

Read more: http://www.finestquotes.com/movie_quotes/movie/The%20American%20President/page/0.htm#ixzz23Kxs1rqh

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Nikki

8:21 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Patty, I have family in Kansas where (as you rightly say) "those Westboro freaks" are from... the local motorcycle clubs have come up with a solution (at least for now)... they block the funeral off from protesters... sometimes the "protectors" are told to leave, sometimes they're not (IMHO, they should be allowed to stay always), but they're sending a very strong message. I don't know if they do that up here, but if enough people stand up maybe the Westboro folks will realize they're not wanted and more importantly, not effective in their "message". Seeing protests at funerals of any kind infuriate me, especially protests at military funerals... that person protected those people's rights to spew that filth... some display of appreciation there, huh?? Grrr.

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@-;-'---- Rose

9:44 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Words only have power when we GIVE them power.

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Michael Pyter

9:51 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Censorship of speech is wrong, hateful or not. Once we start limiting what can be said, we will lose far more than hate speech. China and North Korea are prime examples of "controlled" speech.

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JB

9:52 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Yes hate speech, any kind of speech, should rightfully be protected. If we don't, then one day perhaps something YOU want to say would get you arrested. There are many examples in history of this. Once people allow a line in the sand to be drawn, it is a slippery slope that chips away at freedom until there is none left.

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Michael Pyter

9:53 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

DON'T! tamper with the Constitution.

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SkinnyDude

10:02 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Hate speech should be protected not because its a good thing but it does identify people in the light of day to their identity. Furthermore, when you limit speech than you have an arbitration police who decides what can and can not be said. This control kills freedom for all of us to maintain any few. A good Example Is a anti gay marriage view as hate speech as so many on the left prescribe. It is also a christian belief from the church. Are christian's than Haters that must be silenced. Its all subjective and too degrees. The minute you add the thought police you kill freedom of ideas both good , bad , loving and hated.
It is better we are all free to say what we think than have others do the a lot more harm by deciding what is allowable, There is a benefit to hate speech. It is not that all things are acceptable in my mind but that what is seen in the light of day is much better known than hidden. I would ask is hidden hatred more dangerous than open hatred. Too most I think it is .

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Don Voigt

10:16 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

The problems we (USA society and certain other nations) are seeing/living through are are symtoms of a deeper root cause. The cause is stemming from the aggressive behavior which is so "well" presented by today's animation/movie and game creators. We (as a society) have been so exposed to the blood, guts, and abrasive discussions we see on TV/movies and printed literature that we are almost accepting (and even some embrace) such behavior as "cool."

Anyone speaking of love and caring and giving are pretty much discounted in honor of the aggressors and gun toting "heroes" on the theatres and on your home video games every day.

If we want to change the pattern of behavior (gun toting warrior types who create murder and mayhem), we need to take hold of what our children and grandchildren are viewing/playing and address these systemic causes of the "new norm" in day-to-day violence.

Problem - people such as myself are known as nerdy old geeks...we need young leaders in our schools and in our community who speak of kindness and love as character virtues to be emulated.....how to do this?

Start by supporting loving and caring people/advocates in our community. People with positive lifestyle examples. They are here....look around you and see them and support them and thank them....thinking here of our school system leaders and the many folks in benevolent work throughout our community.

For these leaders, we thank you...we do notice. :-)

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BleedingHeart617

10:23 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Simply put, one man's hate speech is another man's Bible. It all depends on who is in charge.

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Don Voigt

10:50 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Precisely....if we have the hate generators and gun slingers in charge, we know the present condition/status is only a foreshadowing of more of the same to come.

Let's support the person (man?) with the bible!

LP

10:52 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Isn't hate speech what America's newspapers do every day, by only stating one point of view?

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red

11:03 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Yes, the media is quite slanted, that is why it is becoming an irrelevance and we are all here reading the new media. I think the post above regarding the ultra-violence of our media is also on point.

Our forefathers expected us to remain a moral people in order to be capable of self government. Our political leadership has been moving us away from our moral center leaving room for the evil in our popular entertainment and our loosening of bonds of common citizenship.

All speech needs to be free, it is up to us as citizens to reestablish social consensus boundaries. Don't frequent horrendously violent movies, don't buy your kids ultra-violent, bad-guys are good guys video games. Don't allow malevolent political movements to brand mainstream speech (chick-filet, catholic bishops) as extreme.

@-;-'---- Rose

10:56 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Mr. Pyter said it all "DON'T! tamper with the Constitution."

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Don Voigt

11:17 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Failure to change and adapt has it's own destiny....failure and decline of all matters. Entropy will have it's own course if we fail to maintain our leadership at the helm.

There's a great quote, here...."where leaders of the people lack vision, the people shall perish."

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Lyle Ruble

12:05 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

At least one comment has been made to the statement of revisiting free speech and defining acceptable speech verses unacceptable speech and expression. This revisit is needed as technology advances each person's communication options. Social media provides current examples where law doesn't keep pace with technology. Using John Stuart Mill's "harm principle" as a guide to restricting free speech and free expression, some hate speech and expression has caused harm through people committing suicide. Now should the speech that resulted in the death of a shamed youth be tolerated under free speech, is an important question to be revisited and redefined. Is it the same as yelling fire in a crowed theater or not?

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Johnny Paycheck

12:06 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

When you ban any type of speech all you're saying is that you're afraid of whatever it is that they have to say.

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Dave Koven

1:36 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

J. Paycheck...Not afraid, just offended. Some speech has no value whatsoever except to the dull-witted or mentally ill. Just as we're not doing our kids any good by exposing them to a steady diet of hyper-sexualized violent "entertainments", some ideologies really have no upside. Certain speech only polarizes people. Has anyone ever done a serious study of what would make planet earth, with all of its different cultures, a pleasanter place to live? We all have only one life to live. Why spend any of our precious time making someone else uncomfortable? Words can inflame or they can provide respect and comfort. Why live the kind of life where picking the former seems like a good idea? What a waste of one's limited time here on earth. Freedom of speech is a right, but rights have responsibilities that go with them. These responsibilities are getting lost. The constitution was written by men for men/women. I don't think they intended that the freedoms they were advocating for were intended to be destroyed by these very same freedoms. It sounds funny to say it, but life is too short to waste on defending yourself from the bigoted in the world. We give too much respect/attention to people who have nothing positively unifying to say. So, let's rein in the testosterone and see if we can take the Constitution's intent to a higher level. America, it's time to evolve to something better.

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Johnny Paycheck

4:20 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Dave Koven, I would suggest that we maintain our first amendment right to free speech, and charge anyone desiring to remove or restrict it with treason. We were able to incarcerate communists during the red scare-- we can do the same thing with the fascists today.

vocal local 1

12:11 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Freedom of speech is our right. However, one can be arrested for disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct and other violations of law depending on word choice not only content. Americans swear frequently in public but woe to the person that uses profanity. Few really know the difference. We used to have a legal defense called "fighting words" I don't know if it's still in use. We have a right to belong to organizations of our choice. How many have problems with the Jehovah Witness doing what they consider spreading the word/service? How many have problem with the Boy Scouts refusing to allow gays? How many have problems with teens obtaining abortions without parental consent? It is when the actions become overt, when one attempts to force their beliefs on others that the law steps in and should. DON't TREAD ON ME.

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mau

12:35 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Define "hate" speech. Who define "hate" speech?

Is hate speech by protesters in Madison accusing Walker of being Hitler or wishing/threatening harm to him and his family acceptable? Is one politician (male democrat) threatening another politician (female republican) acceptable? Is Rap music/videos threatening violence to women or white people acceptable? Are these examples acceptable and White-supremecy or the Westboro Church isn't?

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Annie

1:51 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Good Post, It wouldn't surprise me one bit. After all Madison is full of Crazy too gooder Liberals aka wanna be hippies lol but anyway, Madison is the worst area in WI because of those people and well you get my point as well as everyone else

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Lyle Ruble

2:16 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@mau...Ultimately in our nation it's the USSC that defines acceptable speech and that which is unacceptable; thus protection under the First Amendment. Direct threats of personal harm are prosecutable and have been. Also, libel and slander are and can be heard and judged in civil courts. So far the USSC has upheld hate speech as being protected under the First Amendment. You can say whatever you want as long as you're willing to face the consequences, including public condemnation.

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mau

2:28 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

I guess I will follow up with why is it called "hate speech". Just because I don't agree with or don't like someone's life style, religion, nationality, etc. doesn't mean I hate them. What ever happened to "we can agree to disagree".

I would think that if the media, public speakers, musicians, clergy, politicians, etc. quit hyping all this talk, and ignored it, it would go away into the background. But it won't as long as there are those who continually rile up the people and pit one group against another.

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Andrew Ruble

3:42 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Annie. I love to listen to both liberals and conservatives. Both sides tend to have fairly good points; however, what you are doing is an ad hominem fallacy (against the person), which means that your statement has little to no validity unless you wish to explicate yourself. Claiming that Madison is the worst area ever and calling them crazy liberals is not enough to make any claim worth considering. The fact that you simply do not agree with someone doesn't make them wrong, rather it means you should consider their claims with an open mind against your own without a biased opinion. I like the questions that Mau brings up but I do not think the contribution you've made is any better than the same hate speech tat we are discussing. I personally do not think Walker is Hitler, but I think he has economically solved the budget by passing the buck to others. It looks good on paper but causes more problems than what people realize.

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Greg

12:33 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

" I personally do not think Walker is Hitler, but I think he has economically solved the budget by passing the buck to others. It looks good on paper but causes more problems than what people realize."

I don't think your contribution is any better, your opinion on the Governor's policy has no place in these comments. "He is not Hitler, but" is the same as asking "do you still beat your wife?".

James R Hoffa

12:44 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lyle already did a very competent blog and discussion on this issue a few days ago.

Why are we having this conversation again?

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James R Hoffa

11:33 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Greg -

Someone had to provide an example of real hard-core hate speech, right ;-p

Annie

1:48 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Yes, absolutely it should be protected. Everyone has the right to their opinion and thoughts and that should not even be tampered with. After all that is our first Admendment right to the FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I'm willing to bet the Darn NAACP has something to do with this one. They need to stop trying to control those of us who aren't of the African American race and leave us the _____ alone. I know this is just a pole but they are probably the reason we are having this poll in the first place. I can't stand that group, I think they are one of the most racist groups that should be abolished and I think the NAACP steps in and puts their nose into things where it don't belong. There I said my peace. I'm sick n tired of hearing complaining that has to do with White surpremecy groups when their are other groups like the one I mentioned in this post that need to be watched carefully as well. In fact I know this has nothing to do with the article other than the white groups being attacked but I have to mention this anyway, If we are going to go after hate things than lets go after some of the hate if not all that the Minority protection groups attack the rest of us on.

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Lyle Ruble

2:08 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Annie Creach....Your prejudices are showing. What direct harm has the NAACP created? Speech should only be restricted if it becomes a necessary and sufficient condition of antecedence to actions of harm perpetrated on another. Show me how you or anyone else has been directly harmed by the NAACP.

Besides hating the NAACP, do you also hate La Raza, KKK, Aryan Nations, etc.; or is just people of brown and black skin color? How do you feel about the ACLU, the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center? The ACLU has taken on very unpopular defenses of hate speech by outlier groups such as the KKK, and won.

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Randy1949

2:15 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Here's how free speech works, Lyle -- Annie's ignorant rant is perfectly legal, but I can legally opine that she's ignorant.

Honestly, Annie, you make Archie Bunker look enlightened.

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mau

2:19 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Why are you labeling and name-calling Annie as ignorant just because you don't agree with her?

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Lyle Ruble

2:23 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@mau...What's wrong? Is Randy hitting too close to home for your comfort?

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mau

2:42 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Lyle, I don't know what you are referring to as "too close for comfort".

I decided it's Sunday and out of the goodness of my heart, chose to defend someone you two are beating up on.

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Andrew Ruble

4:00 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@ Lyle and Randy, again another ad hominem claim; however, @Annie, I understand where they are coming from with their concerns. I recommend reading McIntosh on “White Privilege and Male Privilege,” because it seems that you do not quite understanding the purpose and need for support groups. As an ethicist, I recommend thinking about the things that you cannot personally do as a white female that is unquestionably okay for white men to do. The sexism between men and women is obvious. If you can do that, then you can possibly understand the need to have a support group for an african american female to some degree.

Sociologically speaking, racism requires the individual to have power over others and to discriminate against another person because of their skin color. Let's say I'm white and you are of a minority. I have more influence over what happens in the government. If I walk into an airport, then I have a less likely chance of being hassled. You on the other hand have very little say in government affairs because you may be native american. you might be racially profiled as a potential terrorist in the airport and pulled aside. In this position you have very little power. If you were to hold no power over me and say something discriminatory to me, then that's discrimination only. If I said something discriminatory to you, then that's racist because of the benefits I have from being part of the group in power. I recommend being careful with the labels you use.

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Randy1949

4:32 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@mau, it was for the remark about the NAACP being behind the limitation of free speech. First of all, the NAACP really has nothing to do with this discussion, because I have never heard that organization ever say that blacks are superior to whites, as is done in reverse by white supremacists, nor have I ever heard that organization preaching hate in any way. Perhaps Annie is mixing the NAACP up with some other much more radical group.

Second, my parents were members of the NAACP.

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Gregory Kluck

4:33 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

...and her true agenda comes out. Annie's a white supremacist.

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Richard

9:02 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Annie, I recognize what you are alluding to simply for what it is, reverse racism, the commenters to your post simply have misinterpreted your remarks either purposely or due to their ignorance or lack of reality.

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Lyle Ruble

9:31 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Richard....Everyone who claims reverse racism stands on very shaky ground. I really don't know what constitutes reverse racism. To call attention to the plight of the disadvantaged and social injustice is that racism? I think not, it is only the uncomfortable truth that we must face, but in turn we resent those who point out our foibles.

giving me a migraine

1:56 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

you can't slander others, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, and speech that incites bodily harm or other violence is not protected by the 1st Amendment. in fact, your free speech rights are limited within very specific parameters, determined by 200 plus years of case law. hate speech that falls in these categories is not protected speech, and that's probably a good thing.

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Michael Pyter

9:34 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Slander and hate speech are often completely different assaults. Censorship and even being "politically correct" on the other hand are at the root of Marxism and Communist principles. (look it up) Principles that ultimately lead to personal penalties for speaking such that the government believes is harmful to said government/order. WE must do everything in our power to protect OUR RIGHTS of free speech or pave the way for Socialism (as Obama is pushing) or Communism to replace our Democracy. Sticks and stones people....its time for some...no, all ethnic groups to grow up.

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Lyle Ruble

10:56 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

@Michael Pyter....I don't know why you would single out censorship and politically correct speech as Marxism and communist principles only. It is a principle of all tyrannical regimes. On the political spectrum, from monarchy to soviet style communism, control of speech is seen as an important principle in the maintenance of power. Therefore, your comment is nothing more than an opportunity to bash Obama and others that you politically disagree with. False claims don't support your credibility.

mau

2:17 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Newspeak is closely based on English but has a greatly reduced and simplified vocabulary and grammar. The totalitarian aim of the Party is to prevent any alternative thinking — "thoughtcrime", or "crimethink" in the newest edition of Newspeak — by destroying any vocabulary that expresses such concepts as freedom, free enquiry, individualism, resistance to the authority of the state and so on.

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Lyle Ruble

2:25 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@mau...Where in the world are you getting this tripe? It sounds like you want to fight about something today. Has someone prevented you from saying what's on your mind or what?

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Randy1949

4:34 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

She's quoting from '1984', I think. Or from someone who's plagiarizing Orwell.

Annie

2:47 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

OH WOW, I CAN'T EVEN POST COMMENTS ANYMORE

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Annie

2:50 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Anyway, First of all, Mau, Thank you for standing up for me. I appreciate that. Um as for you Mr Ruble, um call me IGNORANT all you want. It is what it is and I tell things as I see it. You are very rude for what you said to me. I have the right to my comments and just like those of Madison the hard core Libs all they do is try to quiet the rest of us and control us. Well they will not prevail. The minute our Freedom of speech gets taken away is the day that our Country is no longer a FREE Country anymore.

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Roger

2:59 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Sadly this country will no longer ceases to exist this is due to the liberals that want to control free speech and continue to trample upon all our constitutional rights because that feel it is government knows best. I gurrentee you this if the liberals are runing this country we would become a third world county in which we are the laughing stock of the world. The NAACP is now the governments tool as supported by the liberal to silance people. Keep infringing on my rights will immigrate to Austrailia it is from there I will watch this country go up in flames

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Andrew Ruble

4:51 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Roger. Is it liberals only. I know plenty of liberals and conservatives that try to control freedom of speech. I would like to see statistics and information as to why you believe these things rather than from personal views.

Roger

3:02 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

censorship at its best opposing comments get deleted down with the liberal agenda

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Roger

3:08 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

thats what I thought this is what the liberals want because they are not responding rest of the country beware

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Gregory Kluck

4:49 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Lyle, I think Mau is making the point that in regards to not protecting hate speech, certain words or phrases are removed form the vocabulary. Case in point...Neo nazis are protesting somewhere and the news crews are out gathering stuff for their stories at 10. Neo nazi calls one of the reporters, who is black, a N*****. They cannot even say that word on the news, refering to it as the "N'' word. We are not saying the word because it offends. It's gradual. That particular word was scratched from certain literary works, including mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn. There is a character in the book named Nigger Jim and is refered to as that. The terminology was correct for the times but not now, and we know that. Southern colloquialisms aside, it was offensive in some eyes. however, we still see words like Kike, Polack, Wop, Dago and others used a lot in film and print. Another word going by the wayside more and more is Spic. Because of the importance of Hispanics in the political arena, that word is thankfully going away. Don't use the terms as hate but using them to describe an offense should not be treated as the same. I know, I ramble a lot but I hope you can see the point here.

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Lyle Ruble

5:18 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Gregory Kluck...There has always been a differentiation in accepted speech and that which was not. Vocabulary and word usage has always been used to identify class level, education levels, ethnicity and culture. What is now commonly referred to as Politically Correct is just the latest version. If someone openly uses the word nigger, spic, kike, etc; they are committing a social faux pas and as such are judged accordingly. Some words have much stronger hate meanings than others and are judged as demeaning and crude. I agree that literary usage should not be criticized such as in Mark Twain's novels.

Given are history of prejudices, the first act of healing is the loss of demeaning language from our vocabularies. Just because we have people who are vociferous in their response to someone criticizing their application of free speech, PC, doesn't mean that PC speech is more correct and less damning to the speaker. It is the right of every individual to say what they want as long as they realize that it may result in negative responses.

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Michael Pyter

2:55 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Lyle, the value of my comments is your opinion and for me, yours weren't worth the time it took you to type them. And yes, in my opinion Obama is way out of his league, he's winging it (poorly) and he has developed a keen talent to lie with a straight face ( as most politicians have). He's a Marxist and would like to ammend the Constitution to suit his far left agenda...just like this forum is about. If you're still angry about Walker's victory...oh well.

Gregory Kluck

4:51 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

...and if my white hip hop loving nephew says to me "Whassup Nigga" one more time imma gonna smack him.

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Jacob

5:18 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Please define hate speech---What word exactly begins hate

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Dominic Joseph Radanovich

6:41 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Abraham Lincoln said: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." He was speaking of the curse of his day, human bondage/slavery. But this saying can also be applied to freedom of speech. If I deny or disallow you to speak, albeit what you say might be offensive , how do I react when you deny or disallow me to speak? An eye for an eye? Or do we turn the other cheek? Wars are started over "an eye for an eye". Peace is met by turning the other cheek.
I see much in the world that I find reprehensible, and I will not look the other way when someone is being hurt. But hatred in all forms (words and actions) needs to be put aside. Love, peace and tranquility are achieved by words and actions, too. Francis of Assisi said: "Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace . . ." We cannot be apathetic either to allow hatred and evil to take over. That is totally unacceptable. Positive words, and actions can undo evil and hate mongering. Let the haters have their say, as long as they say it with their tongues, and not with fists, clubs or guns. Freedom of speech is a precious freedom, as are all of the freedoms that the human spirit desire. This is a very imperfect nation, this nation was built on the blood and bones of the Native Peoples and on the backs of the African slaves, so we have a long, long way to go to achieve fellowship, equality and tranquility. But love and goodness still exist and can prevail if we all do our part to allow it.

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Dirk

7:39 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

What a ridiculous poll. Only under the Obama administration would such an irrational question be asked.
WHO determines what 'hate speech' is?

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Mike B

7:56 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

Unless they specifically threaten to kill someone or something like that, it should be protected. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because theirs is different than yours, doesn't make it right or wrong.

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Johnny Paycheck

9:31 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

What is this article's purpose, if not an attempt to chip away at the Bill of Rights?

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Gregory Kluck

10:39 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

@Lyle Ruble...thanks for the comment on my post. Sometimes it's hard to figure what's hate speech, what's not. I grew up in quite the racist family environment. I remember the marches by Fr. Groppi, I listened to Rev. King on the news. I got smacked for saying he was right. I am surprised I didn't grow to hate other races. Not to say I haven't made some errors in my language, but I think I pretty much remained a proponent of civil rights.

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Luke

7:20 am on Monday, August 13, 2012

Gwen Moore would be behind bars if hate speech were illegal.

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Eugene Barufkin

10:55 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

You can not be selective.
However, -
Blatant disruption of solemn events is one issue that gets a BIG NO from me,
Should respectful public advocacy, or not be allowed - Should be the real issue. <> YES from me!

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