Attewell Leaves Greendale School District
The longtime Greendale resident, who coordinated the district's technology and communications, said he will remain active in the community.
Bill Attewell has left his position as technology and communications coordinator for the Greendale School District.
Attewell said he is "pursuing new opportunities" but will remain heavily involved in the community.
"I believe that the future of our community and schools is strong," he said. "Please know that I will remain active in our village and community."
Attewell is a longtime Greendale resident. He has also run the Everything Greendale blog, which he said in a post today will be relaunching soon.
John A
9:45 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Good Luck Bill. You will be missed by many of us in the school district. We are proud of the work you do in Greendale and glad you will be a watchdog again so Greendale keeps being a good place for us to live. We hope you will put investigative and organizing background to work for all of us.
GreendaleWorried
6:05 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Well, that is a real head-scratcher. Attwell did a great job for the District. I wish him the best of luck.
Teach for Life
6:13 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Attewell was the first excellent technology coordinator in the school district and i have been her quite a while. As a teacher and taxpayer, I am very concerned about the direction of the district. This is not a good sign, no matter what spin Dr. Do Nothing has to say about it or once again stays quiet letting it all hang out.
There is a buzz in the schools and I teach in several schools that this is a sign of more trouble and loss of leadership. Bill - You will be missed and the kids will not get as good with the administrator in charge of technology now.
Greendale citizens: Once again no comment from management.
You have many supporters from College Park, GMS and Canterbury.
GreendaleWorried
6:48 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I second that. I really have to wonder how many other of Greendale's best will be leaving the District soon.
Greg
11:15 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
You could understand that?
Charles J.
8:46 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
The Greendale Public Schools is jumping from matter to matter without any direction or management. A ship without a skipper. Whatever caused Bill A to leave, the kids and teachers are going to suffer and no pr or press release will change it This is another fact that shows our public schools are not doing as well as they were before. Vote Vincent-Weid, Mevis and Dalkin. Get new people who supervise the skipper.
Gary Larsen
9:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
How much is it going to cost taxpayers to fill two positions held by one person? I am uneasy with the management of our school district.
frominthebubble
12:47 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
It was 2 positions until the PR person left- oh, yeah. That was pre-Dr Tharp. Didn't hear any wah-wahs.
Mandy A.
10:31 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This is a true loss for the district. Bill's leadership and vision has helped move Greendale Schools forward. Best wishes as you begin your next chapter, Bill.
Jason Patzfahl
10:34 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
How come so much concern over the retirement of the Technology and Communications Director, but there was hardly a peep of concern from the residents when long-time Superintendent Hughes retired - kind of abruptly? We seemed to strive under his leadership for quite a long time, yet no one wants to dive into what made him give it up - Can someone say "Walker anti-public eduction policies?" ~ Oh yeah, he was very much against what Walker did to the school system, as were about 95% of superintendents in the state.
I am also not saying that Dr. Tharp was the best choice (or the worst choice) for Superintendent, but we are supposed to give our Governor (who has only created half the jobs he promised to by now) a full four year term and a chance to fulfill his promises, but yet we should pull the plug on Dr. Tharp six months in because he is not Mark Kapocius - who wanted the job, oh so badly.
I have a strong feeling that there is a coup in the works to push out Tharp and force in Kapocius. Maybe Tharp needs to be replaced, maybe not, but to do it in this back-door kind of way is a pretty crappy thing to do. Candidates for the school board should at least be open and honest about how they feel about other members and the Superintendent (AND WHY) so we can make an educated choice when we vote.
Greendale mom
10:03 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Jason, did or do you personally know Dr. Hughes to make these bold statements about his political views? I know the answer because your assumptions are completely false. Furthermore there was a lot of "peeps" about Hughes leaving! You certainly make a lot of assumptions, what are your basis for these? Do you know all these people personally because I do.
Greendale mom
10:27 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
One more thing, why are you even bringing Kapocious into this?? There is no conspiracy here, you watch too much tv. You act like it is a bad thing that Mark, a lifetime resident, who believes in and is passionate about our schools "oh so badly" wanted the job. He was a viable qualified, educated person in the running....why mock that????
GDaleMom
11:42 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I find it distasteful that you are bringing Mark Kapocius into this. Even if he did want the job, it's hard to believe there is any conspiracy going on here. Besides, many in the community feel Mark was a good candidate... the board should have at least brought him in as the third option for the public meetings when one of the original three dropped out of the running.
However, that is a whole different topic. Let's leave Mark out of this - the article is about Bill A. - let's congratulate him on a job-well-done and wish him well. Thanks for your service Bill!
Jes G
9:59 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
A coup? Oh dear, residents of Greendale need to grab their tinfoil hats! Apparently school board candidates now have the ability to control who leaves their existing postions. I bet they can control how we vote in elections too! The end is near.
Roxy momma
11:04 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
You obviously didn't know Dr. Hughes that well or the reason for him leaving. Dr. Hughes was not Anti Walker and I believe he served on a school superintendent committe that helped determin what schools needed which was implemented by Gov. Walker. The lack of any leadership by the school board was the main reason for his leaving. As far as pushing Tharp out for Kapocius there were others in the district who also applied and seem to currently be doing his job and theirs. Tharp is afraid to put his name on anything, just ask who wrote his lovely Chistmas letter - it wasnt the Superintendent! If you don't know after 5-6 months of someone's employment if they are fitting the bill you should be fired yourself.
You should ask to see the letters written by concerned citizens to the school borad about Tharp. judge for yourself if we are a bunch of crazies, which is what the school board is calling us. Did the School Board even look at the survey of characteristics the community wanted in a Superintendent at all, he is the farthest thing from what Greendale is looking for!
People who are concerned need not only need to voice directly to the school board. Send your emails, letters now. The District only has until the end of the month to decide if they will renew Tharps contract. Do we need another two years of great staff, administration leaving Greendale because a School Board is weak and unwilling to consider they jumped the gun and made a mistake.
Overlook mom
11:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Jason. I think the candidates for school board should discuss why they want to be on the board and What their goals are What is their vision for our schools. How do they plan to work to achieve these goals with the current board members and Dr. Tharp. Why make the election a who is against who? There are three seats open with several candidates running. It is not a one on one race. I think the Greendale community is willing to give Dr. Tharp a chance, it just would be nice to hear his views and for him to engage with the community.
Gene
11:58 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
"Maybe Tharp needs to be replaced, maybe not, but to do it in this back-door kind of way is a pretty crappy thing to do."
Seems typical of Greendale
"I think the Greendale community is willing to give Dr. Tharp a chance, it just would be nice to hear his views and for him to engage with the community"
We've been waiting, he can share his views any time, been waiting......
Gene
12:01 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Bill Attewell, good luck with your future endeavors, you will be missed. Thank you for all you've done.
GreendaleEducator
2:53 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I can say without hesitation the Bill Attewell was probably the best tech director the district has had during my tenure. His commitment to my school is to be applauded. I sincerely wish him the best of luck. Thank you.
Patroon
4:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I will ask some questions that might get the conspiracy buffs back to the real story.
What is the plan to replace him and at what cost? He was doing 2 jobs?
What do the board members think of this decision?
The administrator may be new and has not been saying his veiws. That time is long gone. Communicate more! The sooner the better and listen too.
But what are the board member's expecially the President's views? They have been here for years except 1 who is new this past summer. Over and over we get nothing out of any of them.
This is bad management plain and simple. I can't say anything about Mr. Attewell's work record. The Board of Education's record is not very good lately.
The Greendale Patch was talking about schedling question sessions and meetings for the candidates to the school board to answer questions. What has happened to that? With no communication coming from the administration, the press could help us all out and give more information.
Greendale, don't look for a conspiracy. Get the full story and then decide.
GreendaleWorried
4:44 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
As a teacher in our schools, all I can say is no word to staff on this departure from the Superintendent. Just a cryptic message from the Director of Assessment & Learning. From what I hear, this will be the first of string of exits of good leaders from our schools by summer.
Roxy momma
11:15 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Please quit saying it is tool late to do anything. We have until the end of the month to make the School board listen to its citizens. The contract does not have to be extended, per WI State law.
Patroon
4:29 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Mr. Attewell, Good luck in your future endeavors. It sounds like you will be missed. 1 door closes. Another opens. I look forward to reading Everything Greendale with the Greendale Patch.
Nicole
5:50 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I am really disappointed in these comments. It is embarrassing that employees are talking negatively about their colleagues, administration, and ultimately, their 'boss'. Dr. Tharp has been in our district for 6 months. He up and moved his family here. His daughter attends our schools. He is new. Give the man a break. I have a feeling that if he came in changing everything and acting impulsively, nobody would like that, either. The immediate judgements about 'where the district is heading' based on one person leaving is inappropriate. I felt that Bill Attewell did a much better job than the person he replaced and am also sad to see him go. But, what if there was/is a good reason that he had to go? How can you make judgements about something that you know very little about?!?!
I agree with Jason that many people are mad/upset that Mark Kapocious did not get an interview/the position. So sorry but let it go. I have found Dr. Tharp to be kind, personable, and approachable. He's figuring out the district and community. All of this negativity just creates even more negativity, speculation, and conflict in our community. So sad and unnecessary. I wish Bill Attewell the best of luck and I trust the district and those making these decisions that we will keep moving forward.
Cloey
6:50 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Nicole, The Spring election will handle your concerns. Dr. Tharp has a contract that lasts a couple of years at least. Vote for the board members who hired Dr. Tharp and your wish will be granted. You sound like a conspiracy buff. This is poor communication by the school board mainly and then by Dr. Tharp who you seem to want to help. Tell him to get to work and communicate, communicate and over communicate. Tell his main office administrators that most people don't know them and think they aren't doing much.
GreendaleWorried
6:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
What if ... just what if ... this has nothing to due with Kapacious or Attwell or anyone else for that matter. What if the school board simply made a bad hiring decision last summer? I am reminded of the old saying goes ... where there is smoke there usually is fire.
Fair
8:17 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Of course you will move forward you'll be holding the rug while they sweep the wrong doing under it.
Amy Hermann
7:29 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I find the discourse on this topic rather astounding. It is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. All I can say is that in five short months the amount of negative publicity I have read about our school district in the media is very troubling. I have lived here for many years and had children in the schools and was always impressed with the District. That said, from that troubling bullying episode and the near radio silence from the new Taj Mahal District Office on that topic to conversations with neighbors about this new superintendent, I have now begun to wonder if there isn't something seriously rotten in Denmark. As a taxpayer, I literally can't afford the schools here to be in decline.
Nicole
10:26 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
So, because I have a difference of opinion that makes me a "conspiracy buff"? I can't believe the ignorance I see on here. You all have quite a lot to say, hiding behind your anonymous names....
Roxy momma
11:22 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Really, you know if they speak about it publicly they can get fired. Did you know that Tharp is so concerned about his job that the administration had to waist valuable time rewriting the staff hand book to make sure that they DONT talk about the problems with the lack of leadership. Again, how long do you need to determin if someone is a good fit. Any action would be better then lack of engagement.
Nicole
11:35 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Roxy- that would be 'waste', not 'waist'. You might want to check your post for several errors. Hard to take you seriously when you have so many errors in your writing.
Cloey
6:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
A large dose of communication, public meetings, and face to face discussions with school board members, Dr. Tharp, and the public is just what the Doctor orders. This issue keeps coming up because of the poor communication between the board members, the main office administrators and the public. A press release or board meeting isn't going to fix this. Dr. Tharp is the Board of Educations CEO. It is past time for the good of the kids and the village that they kick it in and get to work - for the next six months.
Cloey
7:17 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Reading the string of comments. Dr. Tharp, please, will you come out of your office, stop staring at and pecking away at the iPad and talk to parents, the public and the kids? The Director of Assessment is working along side Dr. Tharp giving advice and making more decisions than most people know.
Broad Street Coffee Clubber
6:21 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
We are very lucky to have Bill Attewell in Greendale. He served the Greendale School District in a variety of ways and work. The School District has made a mistake and students and teachers are going to be effected. Mistakes have been made this school year and they will continue to be made.
Elections are held for a reason every spring. It is a time where the voters can decide, are the people we elect doing their job the way we think they should.
Start paying attention to the mistakes that are being made that we don't know about.
The teachers and staff in this blog are calling for help.
GreendaleWorried
7:44 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I can tell you for a fact that the school board is not listening and doesn't care. I've tried.
Roxy momma
3:10 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
I am with you on that. I sent a letter before Christmas voicing my concerns and haven't heard a thing from any of them.
Bren
8:05 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Dr. Tharp seems to fit in well with the current leadership in the Greendale Public School district, with which many people seem to be displeased. The bullying culture I myself find extremely disturbing.
I would suggest demanding a district-wide meeting with Dr. Tharp to ask him what, if any plan, he has to improve the district, and why good administrators are leaving. If he refuses to meet or plays with his iPad during the meeting and lets others talk, the state superintendent of schools Tony Evers should be contacted. http://dpi.wi.gov/
Mr. Evers' job is to provide leadership for school districts in Wisconsin.
And find good, committed people to run for the school board positions. I think it's time to get a lot more active in governance, at every level, to make sure we get the "best and brightest" instead of the ones who have the most time on their hands and/or a counter-intuitive personal agenda.
frominthebubble
12:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Great, Bren. Force the district leadership to listen. Force the state Superintendent to act? Are you really suggesting we bully everybody? Nice!!!!
Katie Mevis
1:30 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
"And find good, committed people to run for the school board positions. I think it's time to get a lot more active in governance, at every level, to make sure we get the "best and brightest" instead of the ones who have the most time on their hands and/or a counter-intuitive personal agenda."
Bren, I couldn't agree more. This is why I'm running. I would welcome the opportuninty to meet with you as well, feel free to contact me via my FB page or at katie4greendale@yahoo.com
Bren
7:19 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
frominthebubble, I was referring to the bullying issues in the Greendale public school district. I wasn't suggesting we should "bully everybody." I do think that there should be metrics set for and achieved by all taxpayer-supported officials. And there should be accountability if those metrics are not met, too.
Katie Mevis, I appreciate your enthusiasm!
Nicole
9:24 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Call Tony Evers???? To tell him that the superintendent is on his iPad during a meeting??? Are you serious? If you have been at all paying attention, Dr. Tharp has scheduled meetings to meet with the public. Please be informed before you post things you are not clear about. If you think this district is so terrible, maybe you should all move to Greenfield.
Gene
11:34 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Wow, bashing a neighboring community that has not had the negative issues arise like this one, hhmmm........ Not saying other communities are perfect by any means, but if the shoe fits.....
While coffee on select mornings when a lot of parents need to be at work (or are these coffee talks only for the select few family’s that are fortunate enough that only one parent needs to work) is a nice gesture, hardly enough, obviously. Otherwise why so many comments for more from Tharp and his admin? Making an effort could almost be synonymous with going through the motions.
Nicole
11:54 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
"Wow, bashing a neighboring community that has not had the negative issues arise like this one, hhmmm........"
-This is completely laughable to me because it shows just how clueless you are. Greenfield just lost 3 top administrators within 2 weeks, including their superintendent. They had a ridiculously high number of teachers (and other administrators) leave the district last summer. They are constantly in the news and media. Talk to anyone in the community- you will see. You think Greendale is run poorly? Leave.... You have no idea how fortunate we are.
Gene
12:31 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Yes, bashing a neighboring community and now residents is what is very condescending. Administrators leaving is not nessesarily a negative issue. Their district may be better off with the new. Unlike multiple bomb threats and a serious ongoing bully and drug problem.
You or nobody else can make me move simply by your supercilious comments.
Go back and read your own comments, spelling errors and anonymous names, very petulant. Well we have both gone of topic here, re Mr Attewell.
Bren
7:23 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Nicole, more than one resident has expressed frustration over Dr. Tharp's attention to the iPad during meetings. I personally don't recall seeing any information from Dr. Tharp on Patch or elsewhere (perhaps I just didn't see it). I am also concerned that the folks who allowed a culture of bullying to fester in Greendale schools also hired this guy. He has much to do to prove to me, at least, that he is a good fit for the district. He's been here for an entire semester already, time for action.
Suggesting that people who disagree with you should move away may leave you lonely in the end.
Nicole
9:16 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Bren,
1. Maybe, just maybe, Dr. Tharp was taking notes during the meeting. I'm certain that he's not sitting there playing Angry Birds.
2. "...The folks who allowed the culture of bullying to fester in Greendale schools...." Really..... it's their fault? Let's just point fingers and blame the board, the teachers, the administrators for every problem our society faces. Bullying is a problem. But guess what? It's a problem EVERYWHERE. Maybe parents also need to be the solution. But instead what have I seen on here? People BULLYING other people. My point in telling people to move if they don't like it here was just that..... if you think the district is so dysfunctional with people that do not do what's best for our/your kids, then go elsewhere. It has NOTHING to do with disagreeing with me. (My statement was very clear.) Let me ask you this- have you attempted to communicate with Dr. Tharp or board members? A lot of big talk from people who get their information secondhand. I have been in meetings with Dr. Tharp where he is listening and taking notes (on his iPad).
Oh, and I won't ever be lonely because I am a positive person who is supportive of my friends, my neighbors, my kids' teachers, my community- I approach conflict with a supportive approach. I don't bash and blame everyone else without knowing the reality of a situation. Get informed.
Bren
1:09 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Nicole, perhaps Dr. Tharp was taking notes or playing Angry Birds. Point being, more then one person has said he was working on the iPad instead of doing what they wanted him to do, which was speak.
Yes, bullying is a problem, and yes, it's everywhere, but where we can work on the problem is right here at home. I think everyone agrees all constituencies must be engaged to overcome the bullying problem. I think your suggestion that "you should all move to Greenfield" was quite clear in its intent, No need to explain it again.
I'm glad you believe that you are a positive person and I would add that, in addition to being a positive person you are also not defensive at all. ; )
frominthebubble
6:20 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
to 'Our Rights' Greenfield lost an assistant Superintendent (to St Frances),is without a Superintendent (now HR director at Cedarburg) and has replaced principals the last few years. Really, no issues? They have given new people support, time and a chance.
sara
6:48 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Didn't the Greenfield School District just pay out the Greenfield superintendent because he was a womanizer...
Gene
12:11 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013
"Let me ask you this- have you attempted to communicate with Dr. Tharp or board members?"
YES, I have made multiple enquiries to tharp, All went unanswered except one, which was passed on to somebody else.
And, yes they do say the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, so your folks are of similar temperament? How sad.
"Oh, and I won't ever be lonely because I am a positive person who is supportive of my friends, my neighbors, my kids' teachers, my community- I approach conflict with a supportive approach. I don't bash and blame everyone else without knowing the reality of a situation."
Seems somewhat contradictory based on your previous comments. So you only bash and blame when you believe your reality of the situation? Bashing and blaming is still wrong regardless, but everybody should just move if we don’t like it. Nice
More Big Talk, listen to yourself, really..... Are you even a Greendale resident? Or just one who likes to bicker, if it’s the latter, we are not interested.
"frominthebubble, Really, no issues?"
The statement of "NO issues" is not present in any of my comments.
EVERYONE WHO HAS CHILDREN IN THE GREENDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS TO ATTEND THE 7 P.M. MEETING IN THE GREENDALE HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARY TONIGHT.
Jason Patzfahl
11:10 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Wow! Okay, now that that's off my chest - I'm glad to see so many people concerned over the public school system, its leadership and the retirement of a long-time leader/educator, but where was this concern when 22 long-time teachers and leaders retired after Gov. Walker attacked our public schools here last session? I'm sure Attewell was great and he'll be hard to replace, but the same could be said for losing Dr. Hughes (who yes, disagreed with Walker's education policies) - If you don't know this, than you didn't pay close attention.
Like I said before, I don't know whether or not Dr. Tharp was the right choice, but to claim he is unapproachable or nowhere to be found is kinda strange to me since he has attended every PTO meeting at my school, met with myself and other parents on a number of occasions regarding bullying and other issues, and I have run into him on SEVERAL very public, non-school related Greendale events - soccer games, historical society meetings... and now he is holding OPEN coffee sessions on I believe Wednesday mornings. It seems to me he is at least making an effort to fix the problem that people conceive him as avoiding the parents/issues.
Greg
11:24 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Attacked our public schools??? Hey Mary Bell, I mean Jason, why are almost all district doing better under Act 10? We know you are a teacher's wife but give up the drum banging already.
Jason Patzfahl
11:45 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
As far as the "conspiracy" goes, that was not my terminology but I would like to bring up the fact that A LOT of people are quite "upset" that Kapocius did not get the Sups job. Apparently the board thought he wasn't the most qualified for the job. Now I agree that the school board may need some new blood, but not from any candidate who is a one-issue candidate.
Also, Judge Kapocius has issued a letter of endorsement for one candidate which states in part:
"...It is my concern, as both an alumnus and parent, that the commitment to maintaining a top-flight educational experience is not evident within the leadership. To reset the course for educational excellence, effective board leadership is
needed. Katie (Mevis) will provide this leadership." ~ Judge Mark Kapocius.
I might agree with some of that, but I would like specifics as to which "leadership" he is referring to and if Mevis agrees with those sentiments.
I really hope I am barking up the wrong tree and that this is not just a case of "Sour Grapes." I really hope ALL of the candidates are open and honest about their views about the leaders in the district and their agendas going in, if any. Good luck to all the candidates, and may our kids be the true winners when the election is over. The ONLY issue should be what is best for the kids, not "How are you going to lower my property taxes?" http://www.facebook.com/pages/Katie-Mevis-for-Greendale-School-Board/516072341759325?fref=ts
Katie Mevis
1:14 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I hope Greendale residents pay attention and learn about the candidates in the School Board election by engaging with them personally. Please do not assume that what you read or "hear" about any of us is an accurate representation without speaking to us. Jason, I sincerely hope you take me up on my offer to meet in person. Until that time, please do not assume to know what I stand for. I can be reached via my facebook page or at katie4greendale@yahoo.com
am
11:03 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I think we need to look very "closely" at the school board candidates because I feel that some people can try very hard to look like they are qualified for the position and can offer a lot of lip service but that doesn't mean they really know what their talking about. What are their real motives are for the school board? How do they represent themselves in the community? What is their experience? Higher Education? (graduating from Greendale should not be a qualification) Are they financially responsible? Pay their taxes? Yes, Greendale we should look very closely for the "best and the brightest" but be careful, very careful. "Don't be fooled by a wolf in sheeps clothing."
GreendaleWorried
11:24 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
am says that "graduating from Greendale should not be a qualification" for School Board. Jeez ... wouldn't you think that would be a great qualification! I'm sure my students would think so.
am
2:11 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
@greendaleworried...first of all, as an educator myself I don't find it appropriate that you be on this chain of conversations, especially making it known you are an educator in Greendale...second of all we need some new perspectives on our school board. Being a Greendale "transplant" as I have been told, I feel that we need to get a perspective of someone who may not have grown up in Greendale. We are very stuck in a "if it is not broke, why fix it" mentality in Greendale and I feel that we need to move ahead with some new ideas and thoughts on what's best for our students. Things are "breaking" and we need to figure out why and what can we do to move ahead. I am not saying that kids should not be proud to be a Greendale graduate, but I don't think that should be the basis for a qualification on a school board, I want to see what experience they have to bring to the board, I want to hear their reasoning on why they feel they are the "best and the brightest" not a bunch of rhetoric.
Amy Hermann
3:27 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Wow! Is "am" actually suggesting that someone can't take advantage of their First Amendment rights because they are a teacher in the schools?!? Perhaps "am" you missed the social studies class that discussed the Constitution you were in school. I'd sure hate to have you as a boss.
am
4:33 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
No Amy I am actually saying that teachers have been under fire enough these past few years, we don't need any other teachers to help along our already diminishing credibility...there is something called professionalism that I believe we as teachers should uphold in our profession. So, I would agree to disagree with you.
Jes G
2:06 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013
Jason, I see nothing wrong with asking about property taxes. Should we just sit back and assume that cost savings will be encouraged? If I pay property taxes, I'd like to know that my money is being spent wisely and effective in educating my kids.
AM, I have no problem with a Greendale graduate. Higher education doesn't always guarantee a smart choice.
frominthebubble
12:38 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
It is awfully hard to lead with a (figurative) knife in one's back. Following a popular leader/boss is always difficult. Why not give Tharp the time to establish the leadership qualities noted by the search committee?
Greendale has lost many effective/popular staff in the past 15 years. Some loss was a natural part of administrative change, some to personal growth. Opportunities and people come and go. I cannot recall an uproar when anyone left over the past 10 years. Credit the former superintendent for building an incredible team during his tenure. He also had to replace most building administrators and all of the central office administrators as well as most of the support staff. Most retired/left to take other positions.
Greendale schools are poised to see more changes. People as good as ours are in demand all over the country. The number of classroom, building and district openings statewide is staggering. We have some of the best. Others will want them, too. Who would want to stay in a climate of distrust? Why should our best stay when they could be the next victim of some single-focus crazy. I can almost guarantee that Greendale will lose if we continue to bash the board and administrator(s).
Dr Hughes was here about 16 years. We’ve barely allowed Dr Tharp 16 weeks. Time to pull in the claws, extend a hand and work together. I suggest we focus on cooperating, repairing damage done by self-serving cry-babies and support the people and programs in our district.
GreendaleWorried
1:44 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Knifes? Cry-babies? Claws? 16-weeks? I think four months is probably plenty of time to determine if this guy is right for our schools and community.
agreendalewatcher
10:40 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
The impact and actions taken by top leadership make a real difference. Are you saying that the Superintendent has not been successful because of the words of others? Greendale is a small town and a small school district and action here speaks louder than words.
agreendalewatcher
11:02 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
frominthebubble writes: "Why not give Tharp the time to establish the leadership qualities noted by the search committee?"
It seems to me any search committee should have made darn sure that this critical hire actually had the leadership qualities desired for the job. What was it about this man's background that made them confident he was right for our community?
Shame on any search committee who recommended hiring an individual who they were not sure had the leadership, interpersonal and communication skills required for such a high salary and profile position.
GreendaleWorried
1:00 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
When he was still a candidate for the job, Tharp actually told my fellow teachers that wasn't recruited for the job, but saw the posting online and applied. A quick check shows Tharp resigned after serving for a just a few months as an assistant superintendent in Tennessee.
Roxy momma
12:44 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Wow Nicole that's all you have to say. Sorry for typos due to spell check on phone - still no excuse. Perhaps if the residents of Greenfield would have stood up against the superintendent and board they wouldn't be in the predicament they are in now. I don't think anyone is bashing Greendale, we are all just concerned about the leadership in the schools which in turn reflects on our commitment to excellence
Jefferson
2:18 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Jason, Holding open meetings when most residents have to be at work is a foolish mistake at best and at worst, a cheap pr move. The genie is out of the bottle here in Greendale. As someone said above, Where there is smoke there is fire. I would say, there isn't fire because it means there is passion for the village, for our kids, for the parents and of course the teachers. This is central office that has stepped into it and is putting the three board members running for election even farther behind than they were. This is past a problem. This is a waste of a good school district led by people who are out of touch with the real world and Greendale.
Jason Patzfahl
3:19 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I agree that all open meetings should be held at night - like the open school board meetings on Monday nights or the open coffee clutches at 7:30am on Wednesdays.
I do not agree with every action (or non-action) of current members of the school board, but I do believe that most of them are well-informed and in touch with the "real world" as I believe the same can be said for the other three residents on the ballot. There is a difference of opinion out there, but there are no buffoons on either side. I just hope residents vote because of pertinent issues, not because they have sour grapes.
Nelson
6:38 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Check out Mr. Attewell's Everything Greendale Blog. Dr. Tharp will deliver his State of The District Address Monday night and take questions. Great article and photo. Bookmark this site.
http://www.everythinggreendale.com/blog/
Patroon
8:54 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The Everything Greendale Blog will be a welcome addition to our village. More local news coverage from a long time village citizen activist that will inform us. I hope you will work with the Greendale Patch instead of competing. We need each.
Welcome to making our fair village better Mr. Attewell. Your new role is a blessing to us all.
Patroon
8:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
One last comment. Why is the most important communication Dr. Tharp will make not included in the board packet? The lack of transparency is appalling. School trustees, are you paying attention or being duped?
Winny
9:25 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Nicole sounds like a friend or member of Dr. Tharp's family if you read the thread line. Pretty much a fan.
Nicole
9:33 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Yes, I am a fan. No, I am not related to him or his family. I teach in a neighboring district and I have had several conversations with him at various meetings/events I have attended. I think many of the commenters who have made SUCH negative comments about him/the board are the bullies that everyone seems to be oh so concerned about. They do say that the apple doesn't fall far......
Bill Attewell
10:02 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I would like to make just a few quick points:
1. Thank you to those have send supportive messages my way in recent days. Much appreciated.
2. I encourage voters in Greendale to learn about your school board candidates (and Village Board candidates for that matter) and find out why they are running for office. Your engagement in the election process this year is critical to the future of our schools and community. And, don't forget to vote, that is how real change actually happens.
3. To the Patch: Please consider tightening up your commenting process/guidelines.
Thanks and have a great weekend!
Greendale Citizen
9:00 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Nicole....bullies is a good way to describe the way some if these commenters are acting. I'm appalled as a parent in this district that "Teach for Life", who apparently by his/her own words has been teaching in this district for a long time, is name calling their boss! I trust my children with you. I expect you to lead my children by example. With all the trouble this district is having with bullying you should be ashamed of your behavior. As a parent with a child who's been bullied, I find you to be a pathetic.
agreendalewatcher
9:38 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Frankly, I don't see any bullying going on here. Tharp is a public figure in a position of authority with a salary twice mine.
Panther Believer
2:40 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Greendale Worried's post today shows a lack of due diligence by the Board if Education. Greendale Patch, you have a chance to start an investigation. Meet with Tharp. Get his real story. Investigate it. Board candidates, pleaseget this started before it is too late for our village. He either tells the truth or is revealed.
Panther Believer
3:01 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
There is talk among parents that this school board ignores public opinion and is clueless about what is happening. See nothing. Hear nothing. Do nothing. I keep hearing they don't answer email and now avoid their constituents.
Patroon
6:42 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
The consistent scope of comments about the profile used to hire this administrator,
the failure of the board members to respond to matters raised by citizens, and the questions now raised about the qualifications and past record of the administrator show the reporter for the Greendale Patch needs to check this all out. If you are blocked or slowed in the process report it.
If it is so that all management contracts are up for approval Monday night, Notice which board members make the motion and second it. If they approve them all or will they break them out by each manager. Hold the board members to the fire to vote in public. I know I am going to attend this meeting, maybe ask questions but for sure watch and learn.
How did this ever get so bad in our public schools?
Eddie
7:39 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
http://www.everythinggreendale.com/blog/?p=601
Look Attewell's blog and the comments about the chatter in the village. By leaving the school district, for whatever reason shows that there deep trouble in the district office. We have heard the "chatter" loud and clear the past few days. This is not just a school board or superintendent issue. This is also a management issue with the rest of the district office administration. Don't blame just Tharp. Look at the group he has to learn from.
teachforgreendale
8:32 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I now hear that Greendale Board of Education is slated to vote to extend the contract of Tharp through 2016 at their meeting on January 21. I also hear that Tharp's contract may allow for that agreement with Tharp to be automatically extended for one year on January 31, 2013, even if no action is taken by the School Board on January 21.
A quick Internet search found that, Tharp most recently served as an assistant superintendent in Williamson County, Tennessee, at a suburban Nashville district. He resigned that position after less than one year on the job. Link: http://www.wcs.edu/InFocus/InFocus1112/Issue_21/drwright2.htm
Amy Hermann
9:44 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I do have faith in our school board and I cannot believe they would actually extend Tharp's contract until 2016. May be Tharp will work out or maybe he won't. I do know It is too soon in his tenure to make that big of a decision!
Allan
1:52 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Go to the board Meeting Ms. Hermann and see for yourself. My money is that they will extend the contract. That will mean he is employed for the next 3 years at 153,000 a year minimum and no track record of success. Than decide if you still have faith in our school board. I hope you prove me wrong
Roxy momma
10:08 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Yes they will vote to extend it. If they don't answer letters to the people of the village do you think they will admit that they made the wrong choice and rushed to fill the position, which could have gone unfilled for at least 6 months or more. The choice they have is to re negotiate, an extension for further review with out a contract, or extend on the current deal a choice between a one year or automatic two year or let him go which they can do accoring to state law. I suggest we all show up with these concerns and voice our opinion before the meeting to the school board members and watch and see how they vote. Odds are it won't matter and it will be extended to save face.
Allan
1:57 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
AM - About your post this morning up the thread. You sound like someone on the board running for reelection. Take this to heart: "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." I have heard this comment from a board member who is angry that there are people challenging the board members. Lets hope the board members posting here identify themselves like Katie Mevis and Vincent-Weid.
am
2:32 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Actually Allan I have nothing to do with running for the school board and I would be the first to say that we definately need some new some new faces and new ideas. What I am concerned about is people who are being bombarded with lots of rhetoric...but they need to find that out for themselves. All I am asking is that people not be fooled by candidates using lots of "talk", I want to see people who have proved to be worthy of their word, bring lots of experience and knowledge.
Elizabeth
6:16 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Any chance we can put all of this political infighting aside, and instead work together to educate our children?
Patroon
6:55 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Elizabeth, I can't agree with you more. You are right. That will require leadership, communication and taking a stand for something by the Greendale Board of Education and the district office management team. Are they ready to discuss the issue of Dr. Tharp's contract in public, answer their critics, do their jobs as elected officials and the primary management team? Or will they remain silent, avoid, duck and run and lead this district downward as so many of us believe it is?
I would encourage you to attend the board of trustee's meeting Monday at Greendale High School and see for yourself.
Your comment is accurate and good people will heed it.
Amy Hermann
12:07 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Well, it looks like I have to eat a little crow here. Just now, Everything Greendale is reporting that Tharp will be Greendale's superintendent until 2016. Apparently vote was unanimous. Here's the link: http://www.everythinggreendale.com/blog/?p=641
Now I am really wondering about our board!
Roxy momma
3:34 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Why only the board. All the big talkers posting on the patch not one spoke up to voice concern. Why didn't I you say. I am already on record at a previous meeting. Perhaps you didnt know it was being voted on under approve admin re employment, co curriculr resgination and FMLA request. How transparent of you. No discussion of length of term for vote? WOW You could tell that Thatp has been watching what is written about him under this article it was just laughable the references he made during his address. What I find sad is that the only action that he is going to take is action that was set forth under dr. Hughes and the the state board. Not once did he mention what his action was going to be. Mr. Slota mocked Gov. Walkers state of the state address with a roll of the eye saying that the Gov. Wanted tax cuts and changes for schools but didn't mention how that would be done. How come no eye rolls when dr. Tharp did the same thing And spoke like a politician in generalities. The sadest thing though is a board who is very awear of the concerns citizens have and instead if extending his contract the minimum and allowing them to act as if they care what the people think they went for the full contract extension. Very disappointed in this board for not breaking out the motion and for not listening to those who put you there..
Nicole
4:32 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Why did nobody speak up, you ask? It might be because it's very easy to sit behind a computer screen, call other people names, point fingers and blame everyone (for what, I'm still not sure as I haven't noticed our schools running any differently than when Dr. Hughes was here), and make these grandiose assumptions about the board and/or our superintendent. It might be because our board and Dr. Tharp have the support of many residents, school employees, and other community members. (Clearly, as his contract was extended.) It might be because the 10-12 people that show up on the Patch to spread negativity and assumptions about our community are just that..... a small percentage. The board hasn't listened to you? Are they supposed to address concerns that they read here? Maybe if someone had the courage (including you, Roxy Momma) to get up and use your words in person rather than cowardly sit behind a computer and 'hide' just as you are doing now.... maybe then your concerns could have been addressed. I have a pretty good feeling that most of you bashing our community feel pretty good about being able to do that on here, but then can't walk the walk in a real face-to-face type meeting. Again, we should be working together and voicing our opinions with respect, honesty, and fairness. I haven't been proud of all of my comments, but I still stand behind those who are running our district. Greendale is and will continue to be a great place for our kids...!
Roxy momma
5:01 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Nicole, I don't hide behind a computer in fact just the opposite. i do agree with you that others on here must. I have voiced my opinion via letter to the Board, I have spoken directly to Joe Crapitto, and spoken directly to the board and community at a previous meeting. I did not feel it was necessary for me to speak again as they are fully aware of my views which are supported by those within the school district administration who I associate with. Nicole is right if you are just going to bash on the patch and are afraid to stand up for your convictions then don't complain. I hope I am wrong about Tharp but as things stand his talk did nothing for me same old rhetoric when trying to sell yourself. Actions speak louder then words his actions thus far have not been of open communication, team building, community involvement. Lets keep Greendale Schools an open door. Stop hiding behind doors, closed meetings and your computer. 90 days or not your book cover has been judged you need to change some minds and you are truly fooling yourself Mr. Tharp if you think it is only the little people who don't like the book. Many of us are VERY INVOLVED We want to be involved, and at least informed when you are asked.
Gene
5:26 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Roxy is right. I was at that meeting as well and heard a good sales pitch but nothing new.
"Maybe if someone had the courage (including you, Roxy Momma) to get up and use your words in person rather than cowardly sit behind a computer and 'hide' just as you are doing now...."
Same as you.................I doubt you talk that way face to face with other adults.
So far...good for tharp (contract extended), bad for slota and freinds on voting day(hopefully)
Just my opinion.
Sarah
5:30 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
As Victoria Mccormick said with so much authority and originality. "It takes a village to raise a child." Get a new quote or did Dr. Do Nothing feed you that one? Up for election and time for her and Mr. Slota to go.
This board was duped and is being duped. More good school leaders are looking for new districts to work in. Why not find out which administrators have asked for reference letters? It is a record that has to be produced.
Sarah
5:31 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Why isn't the Greendale Patch covering this story?
Help Our Kids
3:49 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Yes why isn't the Patch covering this story. Or is it a cover up ?
Mollybreen
5:44 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Dr. Tharp's state of the district address last night was uninspiring to say the least.
Jason Patzfahl
9:22 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Was there a part of his platform and agenda that you disagreed with? Be specific please.... I was unable to attend, but have heard from parents that I trust that they liked his agenda and the path he wants to put GSD on.
Amy Hermann
7:10 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Can you please be more specific Molly. I can't find any information on what he said anywhere. It sounds like his contract was extended and he has a vision for our community, but no one knows exactly what that it is. Worrisome!
Archie
5:45 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Erin Green and Bill Hughes have said that they think Slota needs to get off the school board. People that know them both have heard them say it many times.
Jason Patzfahl
9:48 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
If this is true, they should say so publicly and give solid reasons. As a parent, I should have the right to know if Slota and the other school board members do not have the best interests of the kids in the forefront of their decisions. And if the reason Slota should leave is because he is a (let's all whisper it together now) "Democrat," that answer is just not good enough...
am
11:54 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
Archie...and your point is? I know that Hughes probably would not vote for a particular candidate running for the school board either as Hughes was subjected to sitting through enough meetings with her over the years listening to her talk like she knew better than anyone else. With Act 10 school districts are sitting in positions that give them a lot more power than in the past and more opportunities to provide our students with the best education possible. As Greendale residents, we need to make sure that we are not voting in candidates that have their own personal agendas and looking for the notoriety in the community, not the best interest of our students or schools.
Archie
6:06 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Tom Slota is a liberal democrat. Someone who rolls his eyes about Governor Walker. He has been on the board of education for over 20 years and many of working in the Greendale Schools humor him and roll eyes when he talks and have heard Green and Bill Hughes say he shouldn't be on the board anymore. I know Hughes will not vote for him and Green is saying she is against him after working with him for so so so long.
Jason Patzfahl
9:17 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
...and here it is - Dr. Slota should be kicked off the board because he is a "liberal Democrat" and has been on the board for 20 years. Sorry, but he helped direct a great school district during those 20 years. I brought my family into Greendale because of that same great school district (as have many others). Now apparently because Dr. Slota is a Democrat he should be booted out for someone who has NO experience in education, but is close personal friends with someone who was turned down for the job.
Personal politics are all the wrong reasons to vote for or against someone in a school board election. The excellent results we perpetually get out of our school district have continued to move in that upward path, thanks in part to leaders like Dr. Slota, not despite them.
And quite a few long time residents in Greendale have said that bullying in our schools has been an epidemic for far too many years and it is just now coming to the forefront. It seems it was a surprise to many on the school board, as it was to most parents - probably leaving the community as a whole to bear the burden on this one. You guys demand action and answers on bullying, yet you are trying to bully out the Superintendent and some members of the school board - Classy!
Gene
12:00 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
The agenda put forth was very generalized and the district is already on the path described. Of course we all want the district to move forward and have the best for our children; however there really weren’t any new offerings. That may not be a reason to get rid of him (not sure that can even happen now that his contract has been extended) however it does make his selection for the job somewhat suspect. Which is a reflection on slota and friends. Absolutely nothing to do with being a liberal democrat. Tharp seems like a very nice person, perhaps just not the right qualifications. Nothing personal. That’s what I am hearing from some of these comments and from speaking to others. As for some of the school board members, the ones in question, yes have been there a long time and have grown quite comfy in their positions. No reason to emit an arrogant, condescending aura via comments and body language (something tharp says we need to pay more attention to as part of communicating). Or to spout off about a kid being expelled (which did not happen) prior to all the facts being taken into consideration. And no action against the kids whom did all the bullying in that incident. And is something GHS staff has denied happened, even though some students came forward and apologized. They have some honor unlike some on the board and staff.
Specific enough! Specific enough for this forum.
Fred Mullin
8:20 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Nicole, I see that bullying is high on your priority list. I wonder if someone will take a good look at what some consider the bullying of staff by the head honcho.
Jennifer
7:19 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
I am an employee of the Greendale School District. I sat and listened to the State of the District Speech delivered by the Superintendent. He bullied staff by entendre in the presentation. The presentation was about what a fifth grader can do in Greendale. He also implied employees are not to do what I am doing now.
Fred Mullin
7:13 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
Sounds like we have entered "the emperor has no clothes" territory here.
Gene
12:14 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013
And the crowd went silent
Tron
8:31 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
This is an interesting topic. However, the responses fail to raise serious questions concerning the educational product delivered to students in real time - specifically the potential departure of school leaders? I question if the district has a plan to replace high quality school leaders? I question why the board throws additional support (extension of his contract) for a superintendent, who has yet to demonstrate anything progressive, or visionary concerning student growth and achievement? School leaders have collaborated with central office administration to move Greendale ahead of its projected achievement, relative to social economic status. These leaders will take their expertise elsewhere and years of service, wisdom, and a track record of success is neglected, disrespected, and marginalized in favor of an individual who has yet to demonstrate little if anything of educational value.
Broad Street Supporter
12:36 pm on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Witnesses to the school board's decision to approve John Tharp's contract for three more years were appalled at the arrogance and lack of comment when they made the motion to approve the contract. People are too busy to attend school board skits, I mean meetings. When you are being deceived by people who think they are entitled to act like they are, the only solution is get new board members. My bet is two out of three will be gone. Slota is gone now and Katie Mevis is going to walk away with it. Kozmonovick may get it. Victoria McCormick probably needs to go too. Vote Weid-Vincent and Mevis. Dalkin is the best qualified but he is Kim Amdizich's Daddy.
Jason Patzfahl
10:07 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Did you speak up at the meeting? No, of course not. And as a parent who follows what happens in the school district VERY closely, I disagree with almost everything that you had to say.
Dalkin has been a business CEO, has no educational experience that I know of, and would probably fit in like a square peg on a school board, but is the father of a very well-respected Director of Assessment & Learning, which is his best qualification, not his worst.
Weid-Vincent is an ex-teacher who has only one agenda that I know of: Do what is best for the kids, which is a good thing. But oh no, she recently ran against local Republican Jeff Stone, which will probably hurt her chances.
Mevis: I refuse to comment any more on the candidate until I have a better understanding of her, but I am cautious about her reason for running, at best.
And let's ask ourselves, Still, right now, would you rather send your kids to Greendale, Greenfield or New Berlin Eisenhower, or even Oak Creek?
am
10:36 am on Sunday, January 27, 2013
It very easy to "talk the talk", but how many of the candidates actually "walk the walk". I would be confident in saying that there is a candidate who does a good job with embellishing the truth, do your homework people, we don't need people to lose anymore credibility in our school board than they already have.
Help Our Kids
2:01 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
Same as some of the incumbents are not "walking the walk" hence all these comments, Alot of the staff are embellishing the truth even hiding it. That is exactly why we need to take a serious look at the candidates, we have already seen the people on the board, not impressed as of late. But yes, do your homework, and be sure to get out and vote when the time comes !!!
Brenda
4:42 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
am, glad to see the comment that the school board is losing credibility. That is the word on the street. The decision to renew John Tharp's contract for three more years after 6 months of no presence or leadership sealed that one with many.
We in the school district got to hear John Tharp's state of the district speech. Unimpressive to say the least. I am an employ and he too will pass. Greendale residents and parents should pay attention to what is happening here.
Greendale Dad
1:13 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
You say things like "no presence," but I do not think that those words mean what you think that they mean. I've seen Dr. Tharp at more school events, more PTO meetings, more meet-and-greets, and more community events in 4 months than I saw his predecessor in the previous years that my daughter's been a student here. We've got a superintendent invested in the community, and in the schools. We have a superintendent who's demonstrated a commitment to being approachable and present and active. It's embarrassing to me that it seems like the regular Patch Partisans are turning our children's education into just another political game. It's doubly embarrassing to me that certain people and new school board candidates don't seem to realize that their sour grapes are just turning into bitter whines.
Jason Patzfahl
7:33 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
I could not have said it better myself!!! Bravo "Greendale Dad."
Gene
9:42 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Physically being there and actually showing some leadership skills during these somewhat unsettling times are two completely different things.
Whining for or against is still whining.
Many people are just looking for solid answers and are not getting them, that is what some are upset about and not happy with the nonresponsiveness and pompous attitudes from the board.
There are always going to be opposing opinions however that is no reason to act so self-important towards someone whom asks the tough question.
Work for the people, all the people, not just the ones who voted you in.
Fred Mullin
7:30 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
It may be easy to try to spin the serious questions about Tharp's leadership (or lack thereof) as politically motivated. Frankly, I am not seeing that. Parents, taxpayers and teachers have every right to be concerned and voice those concerns. The Patch is an excellent venue for that community conversation.
Jason Patzfahl
9:55 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
@ "our rights" "There are always going to be opposing opinions however that is no reason to act so self-important towards someone whom asks the tough question." ~
There were no "tough questions" asked during the last school board meeting of Dr. Tharp or the school board. Where you there? Did you speak up about your concerns - Except doing so anonymously on the patch, I mean?
I speak up about my concerns (sometimes at the meetings, sometimes on the patch), and I always use my legal name...People might take your "concerns" more seriously if you had a name to go with your "concerns."
Gene
10:19 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
There are tough questions being asked here with no offerings.
Yes I was at that meeting and yes I chickened out at speaking up there. At the next meeting perhaps not so much. As I've heard and said many times, at my personal visits to the district office, I was turned away, told to leave a message for tharp which went answered as did emails and phone calls.
My name seems to be of concern to you, while my concerns, in the big picture, are for the kids.
The use of anonymous names, that may be an issue you would like to take up with patch.
Jason Patzfahl
10:25 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
@ "our rights" ~ Or you could always edit your username to reflect your actual name, but that would take courage...just like speaking up at the meetings. I will admit, it is not fun or easy, but Hell, I've done it and I am NO professional public speaker. Each time it gets a little easier, and I get a little better. Try it, or stomp whining.
Gene
10:33 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
You can can call it whining or whatever you like, does not change the facts on how people of opposing views are treated. Whether it be here, at board meetings or on Broad Street.
Original Dweller
10:26 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
How does the CEO of the Greendale Public Schools get away with not answering email, citizen questions, or returning calls. Oh Yes, I forgot. The board of trustees he works for does the same thing. This is a symptom of a bigger problem. The administrators in the central office are well known for coming late to meetings, not being ready for them, slow or not answering emails and phone calls. My neighbor who teaches at one of the primary schools lives in the B sections talks about this all the time. Teachers gave up getting answers from the administrators this fall.
Jason Patzfahl
10:52 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
A superintendent is NOT a CEO of a company. CEO's have to answer to the board, whose job it is to make a profit. Schools are not businesses, nor is it a for profit model. Public schools are an investemnt in our kids and the future and do not make widgets so a few people up top can get wealthy. And I am sorry to burst your bubble, but administrators calling meetings and arriving late is hereditary in EVERY school district. And Personally, from my experience, I disagree with the claim that they do not return calls or emails. It just simply isn't true from where I sit. Maybe you should try a different tone if you are unsuccessful. Give respect and you shall get it.
Gene
10:29 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
And I quote;
""""I was unable to attend"""", "but have heard from parents that I trust that they liked his agenda and the path he wants to put GSD on."
Jason Patzfahl
10:55 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Sorry, but Mondays are hectic for me. I will do my absolute best to be at the next school board meeting. And by the way, there are about 300 people name "Gene" in Greendale, but only one J. Patzfahl (probably in the entire world). Don't get me wrong, sometimes I wish I could hide in anonymity, but then I would think myself a total hypocrite.
gotta get to work...that's enough of this for today -
Gene
11:14 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Dammed if I do, Dammed if I don’t. Not aware 300 Gene's here. They all have a nice name; we should start the "Gene" club. Oh wait that would be a clique. Sorry.
You seem to be quite informed and I can respect that, I have nothing personal against you or your views, just letting mine be heard here on the patch like so many others and be assured my experiences will be made known to the proper authorities that enforce educational policies at the state and federal governmental level. Will take a while but it will happen. As contacting the district directly and politely, from my experience was not effective. May not have been that way with others which is fine.
Getting respect and giving respect is a two way street.
Linda G
11:59 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
Don't just beat up John Tharp for weak performance.
Hold the directors of the school board up for election responsible for the vote approving a 3 year contract without good reason except they could not admit they might have an issue on their hands.
I know that many of us tried to convince them and it got to them so bad they stopped answering email or calling us back.
Vote them out and get new people who will listen, answer and own their actions.
Vote Weid!!!!
Jason Patzfahl
2:43 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Seems as though Bill Attewell leaving the district might have been a messy affair: His "everything greendale" blog is nothing but bashing the Greendale school district. He does not report on anything positive from within the district, like constant student feedback to the board, improved lunches, improved test scores, more student diversity, our ability to meet our students' diverse needs, the great concerts and productions, our great music program, various student-achievements, etc. and etc... He is Mr. negativity.
Sometimes you have to remove the unhappy, rotten apple from the bunch so that the rest of the bushel is not infected.
Gene
4:40 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Well Jake, now who's whining.